best brand of chicken feed?

[Our Roost]

Golden feathers, you made a good point about getting less protein by mixing scratch with crumbles. I will definitely take note of that.

 

[Michael Apple]

Agreed Michael, so why dont manufacturers add more protein to the scratch product?

Some do. Some label it for roosters, http://www.baraleinc.com/index.php/products/poultry/item/141-16-rojo-grande-rooster-mix or you could always boost it with crimped oats since they are a decent digestible protein. Some people use nutritional yeast on occasion, which is loaded with B vitamins and amino acids. They will add a little oil to coat grains or feed, then add the nutritional yeast and mix it so it adheres to the feed.

 

[Laurie59]

I feed Dumor and greens with ww bread and table scraps and meat grease. I am beginning to add deer suet to their feed due to rapid temp drop.

 

[Michael Apple]

I feed Dumor and greens with ww bread and table scraps and meat grease. I am beginning to add deer suet to their feed due to rapid temp drop.

Avoid Dumor, Purina or anything owned by Land O' Lakes. Recalls are enough to keep me away:
http://www.worldpoultry.net/Broiler...-poultry-feed-potential-health-risk-1505542W/

 

[Chris09]

Avoid Dumor, Purina or anything owned by Land O' Lakes. Recalls are enough to keep me away:
http://www.worldpoultry.net/Broiler...-poultry-feed-potential-health-risk-1505542W/

Dumor and Land-O-Lakes are not part of the recall, here are the products and lot numbers involved in the recall.

Formula No.

Item No.

UPC Code

Product Name

Lot No.

5419

0001381

804273001876

PURINA GAME BIRD STARTENA CRUMBLE 50 LB

4APR08RIV3
4APR09RIV2
510M

0010736

749394513269

DEL’S POULTRY LAYER PELLET 50 LB

4APR09RIV3
510T

0010737

749394513276

DEL’S LAYER CRUMBLE 50 LB

4APR08RIV1
6022

0015219

883576010792

HOME GROWN LAYER 16% CRUMBLE 50 LB

4APR08RIV3
61R3

0052070

804273038728

PURINA LAYENA SUNFRESH RECIPE PELLET 40 LB

4APR08RIV2
61X3

0057261

804273029542

PURINA START & GROW SUNFRESH CRUMBLES 25 LB

4APR09RIV2
61V3


0057262

804273029559

PURINA START & GROW SUNFRESH MP 0.0125% MEDICATED 50 LB

4APR07RIV3
4APR10RIV1
61Y3

0057265

804273029573

PURINA START & GROW SUNFRESH MP 0.0125% MEDICATED CRUMBLES 25 LB

4APR08RIV2
61Z3

0057277


804273029634

PURINA LAYENA SUNFRESH RECIPE PELLET 25 LB

4APR10RIV1
L55M

5052155

883576003237

ALBERS BROILER STARTER/FINISHER CRUMBLES 50 LB

4APR09RIV1
L55N

5052156

883576003251

ALBERS CHICK STARTER/GROWER 18% AMP MEDICATED CRUMBLES 50 LB

4APR09RIV2

 

[pdirt]

Some do. Some label it for roosters, http://www.baraleinc.com/index.php/products/poultry/item/141-16-rojo-grande-rooster-mix or you could always boost it with crimped oats since they are a decent digestible protein. Some people use nutritional yeast on occasion, which is loaded with B vitamins and amino acids. They will add a little oil to coat grains or feed, then add the nutritional yeast and mix it so it adheres to the feed.

Michael - I really appreciate your perspective on the nutrition end of things here. Do you know of a list (or have a recommendation) of oils to use for coating grains/feed to add dry supplements to? I'd prefer non-gmo or organic and something that won't go rancid quickly. I will be adding some powdered fish meal and Nutri Balancer to wheat, corn and pre-formulated feed (to improve the feed quality). Olive oil, coconut oil (would be expensive) or something else?

That brings me to another question if you might have an idea. Won't the oils used in chicken feed go rancid quickly anyways? They're open to oxygen in a mesh plastic or paper sack and I would think would oxidize fairly quickly. Of course temperature would influence this. But do feed mfr's typically add something to the oils to stabilize them?

Thanks much!

 

[Chris09]

Some do. Some label it for roosters, http://www.baraleinc.com/index.php/products/poultry/item/141-16-rojo-grande-rooster-mix or you could always boost it with crimped oats since they are a decent digestible protein. Some people use nutritional yeast on occasion, which is loaded with B vitamins and amino acids. They will add a little oil to coat grains or feed, then add the nutritional yeast and mix it so it adheres to the feed.

That's not a scratch grain...
There is a big difference scratch and what you posted.

What you posted looks a lot like a gamefowl feed. They have a mix of grains and pellets in it to form a complete feed.

 

[Michael Apple]

Dumor and Land-O-Lakes are not part of the recall, here are the products and lot numbers involved in the recall.

Formula No.

Item No.

UPC Code

Product Name

Lot No.

5419

0001381

804273001876

PURINA GAME BIRD STARTENA CRUMBLE 50 LB

4APR08RIV3
4APR09RIV2
510M

0010736

749394513269

DEL’S POULTRY LAYER PELLET 50 LB

4APR09RIV3
510T

0010737

749394513276

DEL’S LAYER CRUMBLE 50 LB

4APR08RIV1
6022

0015219

883576010792

HOME GROWN LAYER 16% CRUMBLE 50 LB

4APR08RIV3
61R3

0052070

804273038728

PURINA LAYENA SUNFRESH RECIPE PELLET 40 LB

4APR08RIV2
61X3

0057261

804273029542

PURINA START & GROW SUNFRESH CRUMBLES 25 LB

4APR09RIV2
61V3


0057262

804273029559

PURINA START & GROW SUNFRESH MP 0.0125% MEDICATED 50 LB

4APR07RIV3
4APR10RIV1
61Y3

0057265

804273029573

PURINA START & GROW SUNFRESH MP 0.0125% MEDICATED CRUMBLES 25 LB

4APR08RIV2
61Z3

0057277


804273029634

PURINA LAYENA SUNFRESH RECIPE PELLET 25 LB

4APR10RIV1
L55M

5052155

883576003237

ALBERS BROILER STARTER/FINISHER CRUMBLES 50 LB

4APR09RIV1
L55N

5052156

883576003251

ALBERS CHICK STARTER/GROWER 18% AMP MEDICATED CRUMBLES 50 LB

4APR09RIV2

It doesn't matter. Purina/Dumor are both owned by Land O' Lakes. Dumor was recalled less than 2 years ago: http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm313507.htm
I wouldn't use them, nor recommend them.

 

[Michael Apple]

That's not a scratch grain...
There is a big difference scratch and what you posted.

What you posted looks a lot like a gamefowl feed. They have a mix of grains and pellets in it to form a complete feed.

It most certainly contains scratch grains, which Our Roost was asking about (a scratch with extra protein). The Nitro Scratch is another by the same mill which has more protein content than common 3 way scratch.

 

[Michael Apple]

Michael - I really appreciate your perspective on the nutrition end of things here. Do you know of a list (or have a recommendation) of oils to use for coating grains/feed to add dry supplements to? I'd prefer non-gmo or organic and something that won't go rancid quickly. I will be adding some powdered fish meal and Nutri Balancer to wheat, corn and pre-formulated feed (to improve the feed quality). Olive oil, coconut oil (would be expensive) or something else?

That brings me to another question if you might have an idea. Won't the oils used in chicken feed go rancid quickly anyways? They're open to oxygen in a mesh plastic or paper sack and I would think would oxidize fairly quickly. Of course temperature would influence this. But do feed mfr's typically add something to the oils to stabilize them?

Thanks much!

I just use wheat germ oil ( 2-4 tsp per pound of feed), and no more than once every couple weeks. Cod liver oil is alright so long as it is kept around 3% content in feed like other oils. The oils won't go rancid because I only mix up enough to be fed that day. You'd have to ask a formulator at a mill about stabilizers. Be careful with fish meal, like any protein supplement. Too much can cause enteritis. Slow digestion is the reason, and is the cause for the multiplication of bad bacteria in the intestinal tract.