Today my wife said look out the window by the NEW bird feeder look at the pigeon's. I looked and saw five Mourning Doves sitting on my window Air Conditioner waiting their turn to get to the bird feeder so they can no-ck some feed on the ground and go down there and eat it. I looked at them and the first thing I thought of is the Passenger Pigeon its gone. Yet years ago their where millions of them.I will speak up just so you can slam me.
I think one of the purposes of BOb BLosl' efforts is to not only preserve old heritage lines but to also keep up the genetic diversity. With the commercial lines of poultry which far outnumber the "heritage" or "antique" birds, the possibility for a diaster is very possible. THere is a very good reason why protocols are in place to protect commercial flocks.
Understand that I am not downing commercial flocks at all. THey can produce our food supply very cost effectively.
But I also recognize the value of backyard chickens should a disaster occur. In theory having a wide variety of populations of any animal provides the genetic variation to survive diseases, or local disasters.
Variety is the spice of life. I don't think there must be only ONE way to breed animals. All depends on your goals and limits financially and space wise and similar resources.
I think it is unfortunate that some people perservere in jabs; I struggle to write and share ideas depite 4 strokes. Tell me you would be so lucky as to be semi functional after 4 strokes.
I am here to learn and share ideas. THis thread is turning out to be just another opportunity to slam other theories in breeding.
One of the breedsof horses that I mentioned above became recognized as the best producers of jumpers and dressage horses in the world BECAUSE they didn't limit themselves to native stock. THey searched for the best lines in other countries and brought them home to test them. THey put dollars into research and then implimented the findings into selecting genetically healthier stallions to alter the population. TO produce a physically strong horse, that can handle the training all the way to international level competition. No small feat. THese horses were bred for performance. ANd when investigations genetiiically showed that the genes for jumping interferes with dressage performance, the books were split. Jumpers beget jumpers; dressage beget dressage. Heavy selection and willingness to use outside blood to bring in the necessary genes to add to the native pool created a superior sport horse, one that surpasses the closed registries that will not use much outside blood.
THis sounds like the beginning of a lot of chicken breeds I've read about in the old books.Sometimes you need new blood to make improvements so that the given domestic species can produce better in a given area (environment and trait).
I was hoping for interesting information on this thread. . . . it seems this is another thread not worth my time.
Old breeds of Poultry will one day die out and the only way to preserve them is to have back lotters and hobbyist raise them to keep them from going in to thin air.
They are worried about this in rare breeds of cattle and hogs I think.
When people go to large poultry shows they can at least see some of these old breeds. I saw some Light Sussex at our show that one of our members entered. One judge from Iowa said one of her females was the best Light Sussex he has ever seen. So at least she is doing her part to keep a very very rare breed going. We hope to bring in two strains of Black Jersey Giants this spring for two club members. I got the Mottle Javas coming in a old strain from upper Alabama where the owner has been dead for some time.
It will not be the end of the world if these breeds die off like Rhode Island Whites. I am not going to shoot myself if this breed goes to the way side because it was really not much of a breed to start with. In my view it should be removed from the Standard of Perfect on. All they are is White Rocks and White Wyandotte crosses and they dont have any shape like a Red.
Some need to be preserved.
I got a email today from a fellow who wants some of my White Rock Bantams and my White Leghorn Bantams. He use to have Ken Cookes White Leghorn Bantams years ago and wants that old strain. My strain is pretty much his old line so at least he can have them to work with and keep going on the west coast. If he keeps them pure and I think he will I can get a male from him in ten years and cross them onto my line. Therefor, there is a distance of over 2,000 miles a different climate, different feed and water and a different set of eye balls breeding them.
Is this Bio Diversity at its best? Is this a sub line or sub strain of mine being brought in. What is the correct terminology? I dont know but to me it means one thing fresh new blood or vigor.
It would be the same if I got a male from the House of Champion in Colorado and crossed it into my old line that is somewhat between 20 and 30 years old. However, there gene pool is not my gene pool and I am sure even though they are a white chicken I would have issues in faults that would rise to the surface. By me using birds that came from me in the first place I should not have as much problems with defects in my view. I still dont know what this means or is called in genetic. Maybe its Genetic Diversity or Gen-tic Deviance.
Happy at least I have a new partner in White Leghorns. My old partner quite as he got ****** off with judges picking best of breed birds that would be disqualified.
Enjoy reading your tread and trying to open the pour es of my brain to learn more.