Dumor 22% Duck All Lifestages feed

[Ourgosling22]

Ok

I give them the black oil sunflower seeds due to one of my geese struggles with vitamin deficiency I believe. Supporters on here think she may have rickets so I’m trying to give her what she needs from those seeds.

 

[Ourgosling22]

oats and what?

I think she abbreviated black oil sunflower seeds

 

[Ourgosling22]

They're not going to help very much, they do have a nice vitamin profile but they're mostly fat, which isn't great.
And yes, boss is a common abbreviation for black oil sunflower seeds.

Ok

 

[Ourgosling22]

Oats can block nutrients is certain amounts and cause sticky poops,it's not the best thing for them.

Ok
Suggest anything more I can give them? Does my mixture not look like a good balance?

 

[EggSighted4Life]

I’m not sure I understand what you are trying to say. I give oats for my geese because I thought it had nutrients in it they needed and they like it.

Because they like something (oats in this case) and for enrichment is a good reason.. at not more than 10% of the total daily intake.. beyond a formulated ration. It's a treat.

Nutrient profile is a bad (or rather, uninformed according to research) reason to give oats.

Oats have diminished nutrients (as does cracked corn) to a formulated ration which should make up 90% of the diet.. and is already *often* corn based,

I do not include free range access stuff as treats or diet.. but rather what is out of my control nutritionally and usually otherwise beneficial to the flock mentality.

Does my mixture not look like a good balance?

I'm not sure what your actual ratios are.. you would wanna describe it better. I'm also not sure I have the answers either..

But The following link from a known and trusted resource shows appropriate nutrient levels depending on age and purpose.. notice fat is pretty low across the board when compared to fat content of BOSS..

https://www.metzerfarms.com/nutritional-requirements.html

I'm not familiar with ricketts beyond possibly it being caused by poor nutrition.. IE wrong feed. Maybe influenced by internal parasite load, personal genetics, absorption issues, etc. Despite being one of the better options, I'm also not sure exactly how complete the poultry cell is or if it has what you're specifically looking for.

Through my many flock adventures, including hatching, and attention to detail disorder.. Even when ALL conditions are met for the flock some individuals will not be getting everything the need to be at well I'll say peak performance.. but really even just healthy, unfortunately.

 

[Ourgosling22]

Not really, as eggcessive explained, when you take a good feed and add things to it, you're diluting the nutrition, not really adding anything.
Remove the oats and boss, they can be treats and feed a nice all flock feed, you can mix the duck feed in.

Because they like something (oats in this case) and for enrichment is a good reason.. at not more than 10% of the total daily intake.. beyond a formulated ration. It's a treat.

Nutrient profile is a bad (or rather, uninformed according to research) reason to give oats.

Oats have diminished nutrients (as does cracked corn) to a formulated ration which should make up 90% of the diet.. and is already *often* corn based,

I do not include free range access stuff as treats or diet.. but rather what is out of my control nutritionally and usually otherwise beneficial to the flock mentality.


I'm not sure what your actual ratios are.. you would wanna describe it better. I'm also not sure I have the answers either..

But The following link from a known and trusted resource shows appropriate nutrient levels depending on age and purpose.. notice fat is pretty low across the board when compared to fat content of BOSS..

https://www.metzerfarms.com/nutritional-requirements.html

I'm not familiar with ricketts beyond possibly it being caused by poor nutrition.. IE wrong feed. Maybe influenced by internal parasite load, personal genetics, absorption issues, etc. Despite being one of the better options, I'm also not sure exactly how complete the poultry cell is or if it has what you're specifically looking for.

Through my many flock adventures, including hatching, and attention to detail disorder.. Even when ALL conditions are met for the flock some individuals will not be getting everything the need to be at well I'll say peak performance.. but really even just healthy, unfortunately.

ok

According to the chart it says I should be giving them layer feed. It was separated by duck and goose but I’m assuming I can give them the same kind. The percentages in the minerals were slightly different from what I can see. I’ve been feeding them flockraiser due to the niacin.
So from what I’m seeing, it’s okay to just give them the pellets daily and give the other stuff on occasion?

 

[nuthatched]

According to the chart it says I should be giving them layer feed. It was separated by duck and goose but I’m assuming I can give them the same kind. The percentages in the minerals were slightly different from what I can see. I’ve been feeding them flockraiser due to the niacin.
So from what I’m seeing, it’s okay to just give them the pellets daily and give the other stuff on occasion?

Correct.

 

[Ourgosling22]

Not really, as eggcessive explained, when you take a good feed and add things to it, you're diluting the nutrition, not really adding anything.
Remove the oats and boss, they can be treats and feed a nice all flock feed, you can mix the duck feed in.

Ok

 

[Goosebaby]

Here’s another way to look at diet for adult geese.

In colder months nutritional requirements go up, so you can put them on a higher protein feed “20%.”
During molting their nutritional needs also go up so they need a higher protein feed “20%.”
During warmer months when they aren’t molting and there’s plenty of grass they only really need a 17% feed.
For sick or underweight birds 30% feed is great for recovery, but shouldn’t be fed otherwise.

The simplest way to feed alot of geese of various ages and sizes is by keeping them on a 20% feed “which is what I do,” but like I said small breeds can get fairly chunky on that and it’s something you sometimes have to keep an eye on, but even that can vary depending on the bird, my small buff binges on feed whereas my small Roman self moderates.

 

[Ourgosling22]

Ok thank you. Trying to keep up with everything.

You can give them layer feed but if you have ganders extra calcium isn’t great for their health and it’s not necessary for females during the off season when they aren’t laying.
Flock raiser is a feed you can feed at all stages, another option is nutrena all flock, or purina duck feed.

Metzer’s feed guide is a good guide but something to keep in mind is that it’s a general guide and it’s also suited to the geese at Metzer which is in Southern California and just recently now also in Tennessee, Southern California has a much milder winter climate than even where I’am in northern Ca, and nutritional requirements vary not just by climate but by breed and weight.