Freedom Ranger breeding first year results

[Mrs. Mucket]

In 2010 we saved some pullets and a cockerel out of our FR meaty flock. We hatched several eggs this summer, in incubator and under broodies of other breeds. We seemed to have an average hatch rate, though the FR hens laid quite a few double yolkers and they don't often hatch.

Growing out, the chicks behaved pretty much like the parents--avid foragers and friendly birds. The big difference between the offspring and their parents was the coloring. Most of our original FRs were buff or red, with one brown/gray and one barred tricolor (the roo we kept). Our hatchlings feathered out in several different colors and most were barred like their father. Only one red cockerel looked like the original hatchery bunch. We kept him for breeding next year.

Here are the dressed weights:
16 week old FR x FR: range of 5# - 7#, average 6# We would normally process at around 12 weeks but had some delays.
7 month old FR x RIR cockerel: 7#

The runt of the summer was a FR x RIR pullet. At hatch she was just slightly smaller than the full FR, but she grew much slower and at 4 months she is just the size of our banties. We'll keep her to see if she keeps growing.

We also processed our 2010 FR hens. They dressed out at 6# - 8.6#, average 7.5#, and were very fatty under skin and in cavity. We replaced them with some of their daughters so will see how the next generation fares next year.

 

[Mrs. Mucket]

Answers to questions:

FEEDING:
The 2011 chicks were fed Nutrena non-medicated starter/grower (18% protein) for four weeks. Then for about six weeks they were out free ranging with our layers in a 3-acre area with no regular supplemental commercial feed. They were fed kitchen scraps during that time. They grew at a steady rate. For the last six weeks they had free access to Nutrena layer pellets (16%) and wheat but they seemed to prefer free ranging and were still finding stuff to eat in the garden.

The 2010 hens were part of a flock of 25 meaties. After four weeks on starter/grower they had free choice Nutrena meatbird feed (22%). From 13 weeks to about 12 months they had free choice layer pellets. Then this summer they also free ranged without supplemental feed and had layer pellets/wheat for the last six weeks. When they had free choice they ate a lot and were definitely too fat.

TRACTORS/FREE RANGE:
Both groups of chicks were brooded in the barn for four weeks and were outside in tractors for about two weeks before we opened the doors for free ranging. They used the tractors for night and sun shelter.

# of BIRDS: In 2011 we hatched about 20 chicks. We lost a few to injuries and predators but didn't see any sign of heart or other problems.

COMPARED TO DP/WR (Johnsons and kfacres): We haven't raised DP, WR, or any other breed for meat so can't compare growth or flavor. What we are looking for is a meat bird that can live to maturity, reproduce on farm, and actively free range. We have gained ground toward what we're looking for, but it wouldn't be what everyone is looking for. I don't know about meat yield for a DP but timewise, the FR are ready as early as 10 weeks. We've processed hatchery FRs at 10 weeks and 13 weeks, and these 16-week-old offspring were ready weeks ago. As for egglaying, the FR are not as prolific as a layer breed but each hen laid 2-3 eggs a week. So they contribute toward earning their keep when we're not hatching their eggs. Yes lots of double yolkers but I can't speak to the genetic vs. too much food. Either could be the case here, though our 2011 pullets have been laying double yolkers and are not really fat.

We are really happy with the FR so far. They are easy to raise, they forage eagerly, the processing time range is flexible, and they are tasty and meaty. One 5# dressed FR makes three meals for the two of us and the carcass makes a flavorful broth. The FRs are proportioned differently than CX, with long narrow breasts and large hind quarters, but there is plenty of white and dark meat.

 

[jessicayarno]

What percentage of protein were they on, and did you offer free choice? Did you use a tractor or let them free range? I think these things make a big difference..

 

[ShadyHoller]

Mrs. Mucket :

FEEDING:
Then for about six weeks they were out free ranging with our layers in a 3-acre area with no regular supplemental commercial feed. They were fed kitchen scraps during that time. They grew at a steady rate. For the last six weeks they had free access to Nutrena layer pellets (16%) and wheat but they seemed to prefer free ranging and were still finding stuff to eat in the garden.

I was surprised to see this: you got decent weight at 16 weeks, even with a six-week period of free-ranging with no supplemental feed other than kitchen scraps. That, I think, is impressive.

I have raised DP birds (DE x RIR mutts) to about the same weight in about the same time, but it involves a heavy feeding regimen of high-protein pellet.

So, in my mind: well done!​

 

[Bossroo]

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The guy that I got my FR from did tell me not to pick the biggest rooster, because of how hard they can be on your hens.. I can't wait to breed these little guys.. I absolutely love their personalities, so fearless..

By the laws of genetic inheritance... By NOT using the biggest rooster in any breeding program is counterproductive as the next generations will be slower growing and not reach desired size. I used to have a RR rooster, he had no problem breeding the Bantom hens, wich had no problems with the weight of their mate. The chicks turned out 1/2 the size of the rooster and 2X the size of the Bantom hens.

 

[dutchbunny83]

I never breeded any, but here's my latest batch of Freedom Rangers.
I went with the black this time.
All of them are pure black with the green sheen besides this roo who has the copper coming through. I wish I had a picture of him in better sunlight, he's so pretty!
They're about 12 weeks old now so getting processed this weekend.
I just adore this roo though, best personality, follows me all around the yard.
Once again, really happy with freedom ranger hatchery.

 

[ThePhoebeFive]

I know this is an old thread, but I'm wondering what happened with the second-generation FRs?

 

[Ridgerunner]

I can understand "delays". Even when I think I control the schedule it seems like I don't.

Would you mind commenting on how you fed them? Dressed weight is going to depend on feeding regimen, so how did you feed the young ones you butchered? What protein feed and how much free range was in there?

But also, how did you feed the ones you kept? Both the excess fat and them laying double yolkers are signs that they may be eating too much, including too much protein. It's not just carbohydrates in their feed that they will convert to fat.

 

[kfacres]

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actually the double yolkers is quite common when one keeps the FR or CX birds back to try and breed... it's more genetic, not feed based...

in standard ole chickens, your theory might be... but in chickens that are geared to be ate by 10 weeks of age-- are a completely different story.

 

[kfacres]

so basically your saying, that by keeping the FR and breeding them, you really gained no ground in terms of a better meat bird-- as compared to any ole average DP type bird either in meat yield, or days to butcher?