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And the only way to get any of those is to get married ?
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And the only way to get any of those is to get married ?
So a judge has jailed the lady for her beliefs. She can't be just fired, she was elected, she would have to be impeached. I saw a news commentator say the workers should be fired. I would love to be fired for doing what my boss told me to do. I would have a line of lawyers wanting to represent me. Talk about a slam dunk case.
Taxes, end of life and other rights, visitation in case of dire emergency, immigration in some cases...
I fight for every yahoo to own a gun cause that is what the Constitution says. The base law of the land says they can. We are ether a country of laws or a country of feelings, we cant be both.When I'm on the road, it's inevitable that I see yahoos doing nutty things with their cars. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has encountered a nitwit behind the wheel. Now think of those who can't drive -- either because they can't pass the tests or because some action caused the revocation of their licenses. But in most cases, they can still get guns.
Those who are gun enthusiasts are not the problem. They have knowledge, training, experience, etc. While I don't personally own a gun, I have hunters, military, and amateur gun owners in the family and among close friends. I've gone shooting with some of them a few times -- and enjoyed it. Not a one of them would be someone I'd say "you shouldn't have a gun." And I'd wager that most on this thread would fall into that camp. Those gun owners should be proud, and consider their "club" to be one of earned proficiency and responsibility. Why you'd want to diminish that by fighting for the freedom for any wacko to be able to buy firearms without passing some sort of test is beyond me.
I'm sure you've all come across various YouTube or Facebook videos of stupid people doing stupid things and getting hurt. Do you really want every one of those yahoos to be as easily able to own a gun as someone who knows what (s)he's doing, like you? Do you want to live in a world where everywhere you go, people are armed "because it's their right"? Think of how many times someone "got the wrong idea" and flew off the handle. Now add the finality of a bullet. You can all talk about how fast you can draw and how dead-on your aim is, but that's in a controlled situation where you know what's going on. Do you go through life constantly "on guard"? Do you want to? After all, someone out there may have a "sincerely held religious belief" that you resemble the enemy and must be taken out.
In reality, this "they're coming to take your guns!" is fear-mongering by the gun lobby because they don't want to lose ANY potential customers, regardless of their proficiency, responsibility, or sanity.
I don't think the marriage license thing is the same as the others. a private cake baker should be able to refuse service service to someone who is red headed if he does not like red heads an they should just go elsewhere. A government agent has a requirement to treat everyone the same no matter what they think of the person or their actions. A government agent doing otherwise should have the full force off the law brought down on them.What I don't understand about gay people getting married and buying wedding cakes is why do they have to have just that one cake or that one license? If someone doesn't want to sell me a cake, I just go on to some other bakery. There are thousands of bakeries out there that don't care.
Likewise, there are other counties down the road that will sell them a marriage license.
There are justices of the peace and clergymen that for a hundred dollars will marry a cat and a dog.
It is not a live and let live situation, but almost seems as if the gays are looking for an issue to complain about. It looks like they are trying to force respect from others, and in their case, that just isn't going to happen.
No, she was jailed for failing to fulfill the duties of her office. If she can not do her job as prescribed by law then she should have stepped down.
No different than someone taking a job as a cashier at a grocery store then refusing to touch/checkout pork products or alcohol. Again, if you can't do the job, then go find another line of work.
No different than the cab drivers who refuse to accept fares because they have alcohol or seeing eye dogs. Again, if you can't do the job, then go find another line of work.
No different than nurses who refuse to wash their hands because the soap/disinfectant has alcohol in it. Again, if you can't do the job, then go find another line of work.
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When it was the law that blacks and whites couldn't get married some did anyway and went to jail for their beliefs. That is how you change the system.
All of your examples were employees not doing what their employer wants them to do. So who is her employer ? She is elected to that job, will the voters decide to replace her ?
I used to work in a factory that ran 24/7, but they couldn't require a Jewish person to work Saturdays, and Christians on Sundays. I made a lot of money working overtime to cover some of those shifts. If someone doesn't want to handle pork the employer provides gloves. It's called making accommodations.
Have a nice holiday weekend.
No, she was jailed for failing to fulfill the duties of her office. If she can not do her job as prescribed by law then she should have stepped down.
No different than someone taking a job as a cashier at a grocery store then refusing to touch/checkout pork products or alcohol. Again, if you can't do the job, then go find another line of work.
No different than the cab drivers who refuse to accept fares because they have alcohol or seeing eye dogs. Again, if you can't do the job, then go find another line of work.
No different than nurses who refuse to wash their hands because the soap/disinfectant has alcohol in it. Again, if you can't do the job, then go find another line of work.
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And if it's up to the courts to decide who can get married and who can't, then why don't they issue the permits ?
Other than the taxes and immigration, all of those other issues can be resolved via contracts, wills, living wills, trusts, power of attorney forms, etc.
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And that brings up another question. Why should married people pay less taxes ? And why should people with more kids pay less taxes ?