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This 1,000 times. Trust your gut. Sometimes you make mistakes.It happens to all of us. But if you pay attention to your situation, you're unlikely to make the same mistake twice.Just realize that people on BYC are trying to be helpful, but sometimes they come off kind of aggressive about treatment and medications. I like to tell people what I would do, and people can take advice or look up other information. Sometimes people just love to tell people what to do, and get mad if someone chooses their own way. Just ignore this because you will feel more self confidant in taking care of your chickens the longer you have them. I love to read BYC threads and learn as much as I can, then write things down in a notebook for future reference. I have learned that some who give advice (very few, but some) don't know what they are talking about, or will quote someone else's way that they haven't tried. Hope your chicks get better.
Thanks! They are on the mend and I can see huge improvement in one of my buffs she's starting to look almost normal
This 1,000 times. Trust your gut. Sometimes you make mistakes.It happens to all of us. But if you pay attention to your situation, you're unlikely to make the same mistake twice.
Glad to hear that she is doing better!
Just realize that people on BYC are trying to be helpful, but sometimes they come off kind of aggressive about treatment and medications. I like to tell people what I would do, and people can take advice or look up other information. Sometimes people just love to tell people what to do, and get mad if someone chooses their own way. Just ignore this because you will feel more self confidant in taking care of your chickens the longer you have them. I love to read BYC threads and learn as much as I can, then write things down in a notebook for future reference. I have learned that some who give advice (very few, but some) don't know what they are talking about, or will quote someone else's way that they haven't tried. Hope your chicks get better.
Are you sure it was the ACV that caused the Gleet? Most treatments for Gleet say use ACV.Well aside from the Marek's, my flock has proven to be more healthy than most, as proven by the Marek's survivors that I have living after a year since exposure and contracting the disease. Oh, I do have to tell you that I now have a hen with untreatable Gleet caused by giving ACV in water that was already acidic enough naturally. Lucky I did some research before the rest of my flock could be affected. A much better way of introducing acid into the water would be with a vitamin C tablet. The birds would get the benefit of the added vitamin C and the ascorbic acid has been proven scientifically in many studies to actually work in clearing the gut of unwanted 'bugs' and diseases. The addition of ACV for issues with the crop has been shown to actually help, but for anything further down, like the gizzard, etc., not so much. Acidification with vitamin C on the other hand is a whole gut treatment when used in the water and has been shown to help poultry who live in areas with hot temperatures. http://www.bae.ncsu.edu/programs/extension/publicat/wqwm/pst42.html http://www.webmd.com/diet/apple-cider-vinegar http://www.energiseforlife.com/word...-acidosis-the-problem-of-an-acidic-lifestyle/ http://blog.chickenwaterer.com/2012/12/dont-use-apple-cider-vinegar-acv-in.html http://ijabpt.com/pdf/24015-II-Ibrahim%20Talebi-IRAN[1].pdf
Positive.Are you sure it was the ACV that caused the Gleet? Most treatments for Gleet say use ACV.
Are you sure it was the ACV that caused the Gleet? Most treatments for Gleet say use ACV.
It caused too low an acidic level and left them open for problems. As you know, any change in the balance of the digestive track is going to bring about problems. Even that small bit of ACV in the water here brought the PH levels down to a 4. Way out of the norm.I've never seen a recommendation of ACV for vent gleet by any credible source. Different types of fungi require different treatments. Aspergillus Niger is the fungus that produces molds which cause Aspergillosis in chickens. Citric acid is actually derived from Aspergillus Niger in laboratories when the mold matures and filters off, when calcium hydroxide and sufuric acid are mixed with it. So an antibacterial acid which fights bacteria won't always be effective against yeasts like Candida. Acetic acid from vinegar is also a result of a fermentation process which combats certain bacteria. It does nothing for Candida yeast, whereas probiotics like acidophilus help maintain acidity and caprylic acid, which is derived from coconut oil, are anti-yeast/fungal. I'm not sure how ACV could cause vent gleet, but it could perpetuate it by being ineffective. I've cured a yeast infection by the use of Nystatin (Medistatin) and the use of Miconazole ointment in the cloaca. Probiotics, vitamins, minerals followed the treatment.