I met some top gamefowl fellas at The World Championship Derby in Oklahoma. Some of them told me that no real Japanese shamo can be found in the states now, just a few birds in Florida from a imported german exhibition bloodline these days. Like I said just saying what I see no offense meant - I to know my birds.
Walt Bud, I know Keeling and her birds. Like I said just saying what I see and some of those pics are looking asil x shamos and not JK stuff - Funnily my large line of shamos was started in 1977 by my pop and you know, my father started up JK back in 89..
If you'd like me to explian more I can do an indepth PM. But beware I'm still a rookie
Walt Bud, we had Imported asils before the 70's but went over to real deal Jap shamos as found they are more refined for our tastes and the fellas with shamos became more happier than those who stuck with the asils, even the British based Pakistanis and bangladeshi guys I'm pals with would show you asils that would'nt look like your asils you've seen so how do you know what all asils look like??? When you've seen a varied amount of asian fowl over the years you can have a good accuate guess of weight even by a photo, like if some person posted a pic of a obese guy and a skinny one you'd have a good accurate guess to the weights... I'll have to find the oriental game thread but my time is precious to sift through the various dunghills to see the real deal stuff, if you'd like to learn more drop me a Pm so I can share my thoughts and experiences of asian gamefowl if you prefer.Well they are jk birds and nothing has ever been put into them. I have raised Asils since 1970, so I know what Asils look like. check and post your birds in the Oriental thread here., When I posted the same pics they knew where the birds came from BEFORE I disclosed the source...read it yourself.
Yeah, I'm still a rookie too.50 years and I still can't tell a birds weight online...maybe you can tell me how to do that...I'm always willing to learn.
Walt
