Syringe Feeding Advice

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Thanks again TwoCrows for your helpful response,

Good point about the iodine, I hadn't thought about that. I checked and can't get blu-kote in Australia but I found info about blu-Kote on the internet and will try to get something as similar as possible.

I got excited to see him eating but he doesn't seem to be feeding as much as usual. I bought a digital kitchen scale so I can weigh him regularly and make sure he's managing ok and not loosing weight. I'll keep him in for today until I can get a blu-Kote substitute and make sure he can feed himself sufficiently, then tomorrow I'll put him back out and make sure the girls are on their best behaviour, no pecking! The girls from his set up are doing that croaky frog like call, so I think they are missing him.

Very many thanks once again for all the advice, it is so much appreciated.
 
Crofters Quail said:
Thanks again TwoCrows for your helpful response,

Good point about the iodine, I hadn't thought about that. I checked and can't get blu-kote in Australia but I found info about blu-Kote on the internet and will try to get something as similar as possible.

I got excited to see him eating but he doesn't seem to be feeding as much as usual. I bought a digital kitchen scale so I can weigh him regularly and make sure he's managing ok and not loosing weight. I'll keep him in for today until I can get a blu-Kote substitute and make sure he can feed himself sufficiently, then tomorrow I'll put him back out and make sure the girls are on their best behaviour, no pecking! The girls from his set up are doing that croaky frog like call, so I think they are missing him.

Very many thanks once again for all the advice, it is so much appreciated.
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Do you have any apple cider vinegar? ACV will help to stimulate his appetite a bit. Worth a try if you have any. 3/4 teaspoon ACV per one quart of water. Change and make new daily. This is good for the entire flock as well. A good over all tonic.
 
Crofters Quail said:
Anyone? Please help! I'm a newbie. How many mLs / CCs should I give him at each feed and how often? What is the volume of an adult male jap quail crop? I'm not very experienced at feeling the crop to see how full....or empty! It is. Please help.
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Do you have a kitchen or portal scale? To tube or syringe feed the correct amount you'll need to know how much he weighs in grams. This link should cover the amounts: http://www.lafebervet.com/avian-medicine-2/avian-nutrition/tube-feeding/

If you get stuck, or have any questions, send me a PM and I'll see if I can help.

-Kathy
 
Many thanks TwoCrows, yes I have ACV and use it regularly in the water for the flock, but since I separated my little lad with the broken beak I only used tap water for him. I'll put some ACV in right away and hopefully he'll be emptying his feed bowl very soon! Thanks again for the advice.
 
casportpony said:
Do you have a kitchen or portal scale? To tube or syringe feed the correct amount you'll need to know how much he weighs in grams. This link should cover the amounts: http://www.lafebervet.com/avian-medicine-2/avian-nutrition/tube-feeding/

If you get stuck, or have any questions, send me a PM and I'll see if I can help.

-Kathy
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Many thanks Casportpony, that is EXACTLY the sort of information I was looking for. I have a digital kitchen scale and have started weighing him to make sure he maintains his weight, so I know what his current weight is. I have checked my calculations according to your informative link and thankfully my guesstimates for the syringe feeds have been in line with the appropriate amounts and intervals. (Phew!!!)

I'm greatly indebted to you for this helpful link,

Kirsty
 
casportpony said:
I love that link! This one is also has some good info on feeding and hydration: http://avianmedicine.net/content/uploads/2013/03/15.pdf

-Kathy
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Hey, this is great! What an informative link. This is important information and not easy to find. I'm interested in studying up on a bit of avian first aid etc so I know how best to preserve the little lives which are entrusted to my care. Very many thanks once again for sharing these helpful links. Very much appreciated.

Kirsty
 
Crofters Quail said:
Quote: I also refer to these, which is where the last link I sent came from:
Clinical Avian Medicine


Greg Harrison, DVM, Dipl ABVP-Avian, Dipl ECAMS and Teresa Lightfoot, DVM, Dipl ABVP-Avian, have compiled the expertise and experience of 50 international contributing authors (and 50 reviewers) to produce an extraordinary two-volume reference, with over 1000 pages of text and over 1300 color images, for veterinarians and other avian health professionals.
The purpose of the book Clinical Avian Medicine is to provide some highlights of emerging thoughts, techniques and procedures that are currently being assimilated into avian practice.
These are printable .pdf's: Click here to download Adobe Acrobat Reader
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Avian Medicine: Principles and Applications



Avian Medicine: Principles and Applications
Ritchie, Harrison and Harrison
This highly regarded was developed to provide a definitive reference text that blends the science of health with the art of clinical medicine.
By applying the information presented in the book, the competent avian practitioner will be able to effectively provide the highest quality care for his patients and guide the companion bird client or aviculturist in implementing and effective preventative health programme. Less experienced practitioners can learn basic evaluation, support and surgical techniques while developing an expanded understanding of advanced procedures that can be performed by specialists in avian medicine and surgery.
Avian Medicine: Principles and Application is the essential reference and the most comprehensive why to, when to and how to guide for companion and aviary bird management, medicine and surgery.
These are printable .pdf's: Click here to download Adobe Acrobat Reader
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-Kathy

Edited to add two pictures of the books.
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Thank you ever so much Caportpony, for these most comprehensive and informative resources. I look forward to hours of interesting reading....

Thanks to all the good advice given by all who replied to my queries, my little roo Ginger is on the mend.....
 
TwoCrows said:
I would stop with the iodine now. Let it harden off as being wet will inhibit the healing. So use something that acts as an antiseptic but keeps it dry if you can.

Great to hear he is feeding himself! Keep the feed moist and wet. This will make it easier to pick up. With his beak like it is, he won't be picking up dry food for some time. Try to get him back out with the others as soon as possible but not until you can use something to cover the skin or he will get picked on at the beak. That is why I suggested blu-kote as it is dark and will cover skin. But you may not find this in Australia but maybe you can find something similar. Just watch carefully that the others don't start eating the skin on his beak as it can kill him. The others can eat his wet food too. 

In a month or so he should be able to go back to dry food. 

Keep us posted!
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My little chap is enjoying his wet feed, however, a considerable amount of the feed has been sticking to his upper beak (where the injury is) and has dried like cement. I feel I should try to get the dried feed off his beak to keep the wound clean but am afraid of taking off the top layer of new skin and starting up the bleeding again.

I though of trying to soak the beak but want to avoid wetting up the wound again. I'm sure he would not appreciate the beak soaking experience and I'm concerned that he might panic and aspirate some of the water he is soaking in. I would appreciate some advice on what my best course would be.
 

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