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By chance did you get a new chicken? Or, did you let someone that has chickens walk where your chickens do? You would be surprised at the upper respiratory illness that can be brought in that way. A chicken that you've bought, that looks well, but is a carrier. Someone carrying it in on their shoes. When I have people over to buy a chicken, I have them wait at the gate while I get the chicken if I haven't already got it in a kennel for someone that really wants to take it home.
Upper respiratory meds...many out there, many that some folks swear by. But have to say, the one that I like best to have on hand for any type of infection..example, I just finished treating a girl with bumble foot...anyway.. Denagard! Expensive, but well worth the price. Can only buy it on the internet. I will see if I can find that site. You may want to treat them every other month just for preventive. I do.
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As they say, chickens don't get colds, but upper respiratory problems...I say..say what? What's the difference? Oh well..
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Hope this works... http://www.thepoultrysite.com/focus/novartis-animal-health/2281/denagard-premix-for-poultry-denagard-premix-the-right-choice-from-novartis-animal-health

Look up things said about it here on BYC, type in Denagard treatment, you will find a lot of different posts.. nicest thing about this medication, is that it does not have a withdrawal period to wait on before you can eat the eggs.

Cynthia - Thanks for the advice. They have been on the Denagard since it arrived last Thursday. The sicker ones are looking better, and all of them seem perkier. It must have been more widespread in my birds than I thought. I'm not exactly clear - does it treat any upper respiratory disease (CRD and Coryza)? Its easy to mix for a small flock, 1 ml per cup of water, I like easy math.

And I had brought home other birds. We bought 30 supposed Cornish Cross meat birds from CAL Ranch in Spanish Fork. 12 turned out to be white leghorns. They were healthy, but the remaining Cornish started getting sick, so I went ahead and put the leghorn hens in with my laying hens - not having any idea how contagious this could be and that I was risking my hens. I thought it would be better to introduce a bunch of young birds at once, so they wouldn't get singled out to get picked on. That part went really well.

I got into this to have a learning experience, and it has been.

Hope your surgery went well.

Ann

I am pretty sure for upper R. But in some reading, I see that it has worked for Coryza also.
While looking around, I found this

I first introduced Oxine as a medicinal treatment for upper respiratory fungal infections, as outlined in the first article I ever wrote for the Poultry Press. Oxine was certainly not anything new at that time, but it was new information to most of the fancy. It had already been used for decades in both the chlorination of municipal drinking water supplies, and was widely used throughout the commercial poultry industry. But few fanciers knew anything about it. I happened to have a duck at the time that was suffering so severely from a respiratory infection that I spoke to a Poultry Research Veterinarian friend of mine about possible treatment experiments, since illnesses such as Aspergillosis were thought of as fatal if severe. He told me about Oxine AH and how successful it had been when used as a nebulizing agent both in poultry and in the equine field. (Nebulizing meant the bird had to breathe the product into its airways.)

I had nothing to lose since the duck could barely breathe, so I tried it. I used a Tri-Jet fogger and a solution of 6-1/2 ounces of Oxine to a gallon of water as prescribed, and I ‘fogged’ the bird’s face and cage three times daily for ten days. She was cured.

Since then, I have learned quite a bit about this product. Since Oxine is technically a disinfectant and I have over 26 years in the specialty chemical industry, I understood the mechanics of how the product worked from the start. I also understand EPA registrations, USDA, and FDA, so I had access to all of the many applications of the one parent product under various label uses.

Oxine is known to kill every bacteria, virus, and mold it has ever been tested against and is 200 times more effective than chlorine bleach. But one of the most impressive things about Oxine for me is that it does it with such relative safety (when used according to label instructions). Environmentally speaking, Oxine actually biodegrades to ordinary table salt. And it is so safe to use on livestock that it is actually approved for use in the drinking water of ‘organically grown’ animals. I use it myself at the rate of 7-15 drops per gallon of water in our stock tank of drinking water for our own sheep. It keeps the water impressively clear and algae free, while keeping down the biofilm ‘slime’ that tends to develop on the sides of the tank.

Oxine is used in many commercial operations in the automated drinking lines for poultry. It keeps the bacteria level down in the water lines, prevents biofilm from developing, and keeps the birds healthier by keeping down the pathogen level that could potentially travel form one bird to another. The side benefit for commercial growers is that Oxine makes the drinking water more palatable to the birds and therefore they drink more. This is especially important in layers, but can have a benefit in any operation since it also improves feed conversion.

Technically, Oxine Concentrate is a 2% chlorine dioxide gas suspended in an aqueous solution. It is diluted with water to varying degrees depending on how you would like to use it. Since it is a disinfectant and not a drug, it must make direct contact with the pathogen in order to kill it. In the diluted inactivated state, Oxine is perfectly safe to use around both your birds and yourself. Oxine can also be ‘activated’ using citric acid crystals, which ‘release’ more of the available chlorine in the solution, but I highly discourage this method of use within the fancy. If you were to activate the product, it is recommended that you wear a NIOSH approved respirator and you would not be able to fog the solution into any area where the birds are present. Without activation, I am very comfortable with using the product without a respirator or mask, although you should follow whatever precautions you are most comfortable with.

Here’s how I use Oxine in my operation (this is simply an example program – you should adapt this to your particular situation since every coop and hatchery is different). I raise both chickens and waterfowl (ducks). I use 1/8 tsp/gallon of water for my ducks’ bath water to keep the bacteria level down and to help prevent bacterial enteritis, since E-Gads, we all know what ducks do in their water besides drink from it. They get a separate small dish (that they won’t fit into) at night before bed with drinking water that I can fortify with vitamins, minerals, and probiotics if I choose – but not with Oxine in it which could kill the beneficial bacteria in the probiotic supplement.

I use 1/8 tsp/gallon of water in my chickens’ drinking water every other day to keep down the biofilm (slime) that forms on the inside of the waterers. It also keeps the bacteria level down for when that amazingly accurate missile of a dropping somehow makes it into the drinking water trough every day. (On the opposite days I like to include a combination vitamin, mineral, and probiotic supplement in their water instead.)

Since I run a biosecurity program in my showbird coop, I use Oxine to fog the entire inside of the coop (including the birds themselves) once a week. It keeps the dust down and knocks all of the viruses, bacteria, and mold spores out of the air. It also keeps the air fresh smelling in there. Oxine also has a residual disinfecting quality so I try to moisten surfaces such as roosts with the fog as I go. I see no need to remove feed or drinkers form the coop when I fog so the procedure is quite simple.

Other possible uses for the product are an egg dip prior to incubation (always using water warmer than the egg and at the rate of 4 oz/gallon of water). In this case, you would simply dip the egg in the solution and lay it on a clean paper towel to air dry – do not rub since that would breach the egg’s cuticle, something which is important to hatching success. You can also use it at the rate of 7 drops/gallon of water in your water reservoir in your incubator, and/or in a humidifier that may be running in a room where you store eggs prior to incubation.

Oxine has so many approvals for use in the (human) food industry that they’re too numerous to mention here, but it’s worth noting since it reinforces Oxine’s overall relative safety.

You may purchase Oxine through several of the poultry supply houses. A few that I know of are Seven Oaks Game Farm, Smith Poultry, First State Veterinary Supply, Cutler Pheasant Supply, and Aire Solutions, LC. All of the suppliers listed above advertise in the Poultry Press. There may be more and I apologize if I have left them out. If you are a supplier of Oxine and were not mentioned here, then I suggest you advertise that you are in the next issue of the Poultry Press so it becomes known. Also, if you let me know who you are, I would be glad to include you in an amended copy of this article prior to putting it up on my website next month.

If you need a fogger and cannot afford the more expensive ones, there is an alternative. It is the Preval Paint Sprayer from www.dickblick.com. It’s a small hand held device that is commonly used when vaccinating poultry against viruses that the birds need to breathe in to become inoculated. The Preval sprayer requires ‘power units’ to work and they can be purchased from Dick Blick as well. Also, Fogmaster makes a ‘Fogmaster Jr.’, which you can view and purchase at www.fogmaster.com. The suppliers of Oxine may also provide fogger options and perhaps some kind of package deal, so I would check that option out as well
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I'm thinking I am going to try and find some of this stuff! Sounds like great stuff. Look it up here on BYC..lots of good to say about it, and ok to use with Denagard.
My chickens have been well now for a long time. But I like the idea of spraying it on our shoes, or anyone that goes into the yard. Plus, use it in the drinking water.

Another on the Oxine... We have been using Oxine in our poultry barn for over 5 years now and couldn't imagine raising poultry without it. We originally had to purchase it from the UK, but it is now readily available from online US suppliers including Amazon. It's even locally available from breweries, and they have the best pricing as well.

Five years ago, our flock of purebred ducks came down with Aspergillosis. They were all on the verge of dying (or having to be put down) and our last hope was to isolate them to a small tented area and run Oxine (diluted of course) thru a regular store-bought humidifier 24/7 for about 3 days. They were all cured and we still have a few of them to this day! At that point, we started using Oxine on a regular basis.

We use Oxine in 3 different ways. The first and most common way we use it is in a sprayer. (Just a regular sprayer from any home/garden center). We spray down the barn every time we clean a pen or put new birds into an area where other birds were living - even if they only lived there for a few days. Not only does the spraying help with all the dust and dander that is normally found in poultry areas, but it helps the odors tremendously. Anyone who walks into our barn comments on the fact that they don't smell anything, even though there are 100 birds living in there. We try to spray down everything (and I mean everything) at least every few weeks, chore time permitting. If we have visitors to the barn, we spray the bottoms of their feet upon entering.

The second way we use it is in a fogger. After the scare with the Aspergillosis and dealing with all the leakage and breakdowns of the store-bought humidifiers and hand misters, we broke down and purchased the heavy-duty fogger that is specifically sold for use with Oxine. It works incredibly well and has been super reliable for years now! We are very impressed with this piece of equipment and it was well worth the hundreds of dollars that it cost. Whenever we have an outbreak of an upper respiratory infection in our birds (inevitable due to the cool/damp weather we live in), we start fogging every day. Combined with a treatment of antibiotics (and then probiotics afterwards), we are able to cure the sick birds and prevent the spread to the rest of the birds in the barn.

The last way we use Oxine is in the birds' waterers. It works especially well for the outdoor waterers that are exposed to sunlight and start growing algae almost immediately without the addition of Oxine. We don't keep the Oxine in the water all year round, but rather in spurts so it doesn't eliminate all of the good flora in the birds' guts.

Thought I better add..this is from another poster from another thread. I have been doing real well with my chickens. I keep giving them Denagard as a preventive every couple of months.
 
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Internal worms maybe? (no sign in other chickens, no worry poop of her or anywhere but I will put some vinegar in the water. Checked her foot, nothing unusual except pale comb and lower activity level. I put her outside yesterday and she zipped around, scratching and acting like the others. This afternoon she was kinda quiet outside and then found her in the coop WAY early. SO, back in the house with electrolytes again, I'll put her on antibotics this time.

No eggs that I know of but she doesn't appear to be egg bound. May put her in the tub tomorrow just to double check that. Eating/drinking well, alert, no ruffled up feathers when sleeping.

Crud, I'd hate to lose another great leghorn hen! More people wanting eggs than I have eggs now.
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Guess some are getting banty eggs (but they are cute! tiny blue, green and olive).

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Re: Oxine posts

WOW, sounds like good stuff. and living here in PC we have some micro-brews maybe I could score some - if not Amazon here I come!

I'll read up more on it when I have time. One thing -- do you use it in the winter (or cold) or more in the warmer weather?

Thanks for all the great info!

julie
 
I have two cockerels I need to find homes for. Neither one is crowing (yet), but the EE guy is probably pretty close. The EE is, so far, pretty mellow and will eat from your hand. He doesn't like to be held and I don't force it. The other is a blue Wyandotte. Both are beautiful birds but I just can't have them living in town.

They are both free to BYC members. Just PM me.

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Are you sure the EE isn't a hen? Looks just like one of my hens. I can see the roo-ish tail but no waddles and small comb. Can see the roo in the blue.

I have about 5 EE's and can you believe they are ALL laying brown eggs? Grrrr... EE's aren't the best layers and I got them only for the colored eggs. The banty EE's tho lay the cutest blue, green, olive eggs. More flightly than reg size EE's.
 
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Are you sure the EE isn't a hen? Looks just like one of my hens. I can see the roo-ish tail but no waddles and small comb. Can see the roo in the blue.

I have about 5 EE's and can you believe they are ALL laying brown eggs? Grrrr... EE's aren't the best layers and I got them only for the colored eggs. The banty EE's tho lay the cutest blue, green, olive eggs. More flightly than reg size EE's.

i am kinda thinking hen also. i would hate to get your hopes up but i would wait a little longer to be sure. i know s/he may have a roo like tail but even hens can have them sometimes. there are some amazing threads on this site about sexing ee's and i will have to look and see if i saved it. how old are they?
edit: here it is https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=463817
 
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The EE is 17-18 weeks old and I would LOVE it if he/she turns out to be a hen.

The thing certainly acts like a roo, and those legs are bigger and taller than his/her sisters. Agreed about the comb and wattles, but they are more red than the sisters. I have no problem with the wait and see method of EE sexing... Maybe the bird has gender issues. I won't judge, just lay me an blue egg and I'll love you forever.
 

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