Culled (for eating) some quails today... my observations

monarc23

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and get this.. the roos (mature) were SOOO FAT!? They didn't *look* fat but upon pulling up the skin layer, FAT everywhere!!! The one roo was so fat the upper part of his heart was entirely encased in FAT!!! Many of his organs as well!!! One might be like "oh that's great!" but kind of worried me.... fat all around the organs like that and only a few months old (mature but young not a year old)? I know fat like that isn't healthy on a human, so what about my roos im intending to keep for breeding....? Makes me wonder if they won't live long just because I'm apparently making chunky monkeys out of them lol! All the hens had the normal fat deposits (just slightly around the lower rib area)....but the roos.... on the lower stomach, internal organs, crop area, legs and BACK!? It was gross lol!!!!

Has anyone else noticed this when butchering mature roos??? Or doesnt' anyone let them get that old?
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I also butchered a Tenn. Red hen I wasn't using for breeding and for her size, she has much more meat than a coturnix on her breast area ....was interesting to see the difference. I also finnally butchered for eating, an A & M roo, he was young (not yet crowing but around crowing age) his flesh color is only SLIGHTLY different from any of my other coturnix colors flesh. I also culled a tuxedo hen who had stopped laying....her flesh was normal colored. After seeing this, I really do believe that theres really no difference between an A & Ms flesh and another coturnix's flesh...I just don't see it....I'll check it on flavor this weekend when we have them with bacon YUM!
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I have never noticed a lot of fat on my corturnix when butchered. What have you been feeding them? They should have a gamebird starter until they are about 8 weeks, then I butcher before they molt the first time.

Oh, I also wanted to mention that I thought your comment on the corturnix vs the A&M very interesting. I wondered if there was much of a difference but I haven't butchered any A&M yet.
 
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I had a few of the older roos with a lot of fat on them I think it was the extra corn I was giving them this spring. I know with chickens we finish them off the last week with corn to give them a little yellow fat
 
Yes, corn will definitely add extra fat and I have never butchered older quail so I don't know if they get more fat as they get older.
 
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I feed all my birds game bird starter because of the higher protien, my choices for adult formulas around here have drastic lower protien which I avoid so me feeding starter may deffinatly be the reason for my issue
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Also this isnt teh first time ive butchered quails this is just the first time i've butchered fatties
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and a bobwhite, and an A & M....I had been avoiding butchering my A & Ms fo ra while because i only had enough for breeding and not enough excess for culling until today
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So yeppers that's my observations for them.

What I find odd though is out of my quails, my males are hte most active (chasing hens, crowing, displaying etc) yet its the males that are the chunks.... I dont get it
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I feed all my birds game bird starter because of the higher protien, my choices for adult formulas around here have drastic lower protien which I avoid so me feeding starter may deffinatly be the reason for my issue
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Also this isnt teh first time ive butchered quails this is just the first time i've butchered fatties
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and a bobwhite, and an A & M....I had been avoiding butchering my A & Ms fo ra while because i only had enough for breeding and not enough excess for culling until today
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So yeppers that's my observations for them.

What I find odd though is out of my quails, my males are hte most active (chasing hens, crowing, displaying etc) yet its the males that are the chunks.... I dont get it
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lol

The females are doing more work than the males are, a lot of what they take in goes into egg production. Maybe you could feed them all lower protein feed, and just treat the girls to the worms? I agree that all that fat on them can't be good for them!
 
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I feed all my birds game bird starter because of the higher protien, my choices for adult formulas around here have drastic lower protien which I avoid so me feeding starter may deffinatly be the reason for my issue
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Also this isnt teh first time ive butchered quails this is just the first time i've butchered fatties
lau.gif
and a bobwhite, and an A & M....I had been avoiding butchering my A & Ms fo ra while because i only had enough for breeding and not enough excess for culling until today
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So yeppers that's my observations for them.

What I find odd though is out of my quails, my males are hte most active (chasing hens, crowing, displaying etc) yet its the males that are the chunks.... I dont get it
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lol

The females are doing more work than the males are, a lot of what they take in goes into egg production. Maybe you could feed them all lower protein feed, and just treat the girls to the worms? I agree that all that fat on them can't be good for them!

I'll take that into deffinate consideration, i'm just paranoid to lower the protien if they can last out until winter then I deffinatly will
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(as by then i wont be worried about egg production)
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But yes the fat was so bad... I need to do something lol!!! My train of thought was that the males are always running around like banchees but you're right the hens got it way worse...avoiding the roos when possible, squabbles, egg laying egg producing lol!
 
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oh i deffinatly agree...I was just havint this conversation a few days ago with Ironsun about how A & ms are pretty much reverted back to English Whites... theres a difference still but they're pretty much the same bird.
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What I never understood is that you can get A& M via many other colors, with that said you (IMO) can't call them A & M when that happens because A & Ms were selectively/strictly bred birds...so when crossed it totally ruined that about them... so that's like the chicks im getting from my tuxes that are all white or white with spots...I've decided for my own personal records they are NOT A & Ms, and rather, highwhite tuxedos (just like in rats).
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ETA: I just went to that site, haven't seen that one before.... um.... what i find funny is if he got his eggs from the original source shouldnt he be saying "from Texas A & M..." instead he says "from the ones" that doesn't mean much to me
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Yeah, a dollar an egg and never heard of the guy...doesn't sound too promising lol
 
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I was disappointed too at my first processing and meal. I think mine are dark meat.

So who really knows what Texas A&M did to breed an all white meat bird? Is it in the archives of the college or did they keep it a secret????

I found fat on mine too but hey, fat adds some flavor
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