Help Me - Possible Egg Bound??

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LittleMamaBigPapa

LittleMamaBigPapa

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RE-POST FROM THIS MORNING IN THE SICKNESS, DISEASE CATEGORY - GETTING NO REPLIES

I have tried searching for answers about egg bound, but I am still not sure. One of my Buff Orps ate gleefully last night some Old Fashiooned Oatmeal, and drank ALOT, but she is not moving much. Her tail feathers are usually all perked up but yesterday and today are turned down. I thought I felt a large egg in the area just below her vent, but after seeing the anatomy pictures in other posts, not sure if it was an organ. Winter laying was sporadic but enough to feed my hubby and I, but the last 3 weeks we were getting one egg every day from each of our two Buffs, but the last couple days only one Buff egg (and 1 or 2 smaller Bantam Rock eggs). I tried putting her in a bath at 6:30 PM yesterday, 3/17, but her vent was not submerged like supposed to be as I read in a post later that night. I didnt want to bother her 10:33pm as she was sleeping, so I got up at 4:45 am this morning and gave her a bath well submerged!! for 35 minutes. She is drinking less today. She has had 4 poops since I brought her in the house at 6:00pm yesterday and they have been white and green with a lot of liquid. ( I see evidence in each one of grass that she has eaten, but not the oatmeal yet).

I think I have covered everything. Does this sound like egg-bound, constipated, other??? I read on someone's post that they had some Buff Orps die of apparently becoming internal layers?? Is this a breed issue??????????

Thank you so much for any help you can give.

Cathy

****PLEASE....this is my first batch of chicks I have ever raised.....got them last May and I am so very attached.**** I am at work while she is at home in my darkened room (per a BYC post) in a rubber maid tub, and I wish I could be there. Thankfully, hubby will check her at noon!!
 
I'm so sorry for your loss. I just read your other thread about how no one answered you and helped you, and let me say that I know exactly how you feel. Sometimes when I posted and got no replies, I would become frustrated and blame it on BYC. I would bump it and post "any ideas???" or something after a half hour or so if no one answered, especially if it was important. I felt that no one was responding because they were all paying attention to what was going on in the random, contest, games, etc...threads, rather than the "important" ones. Well, this may have been slightly true because indeed, the games/random/contest threads are fun and once you get into a thread, you tend to visit it all the time and you forget to visit other threads.
BUT, there is no guarantee that you will get a helpful reply as soon as possible. Sometimes people don't have an answer to your problem/question. Sometimes they don't notice your thread for a while. Sometimes they are too busy doing other things. etc...etc...etc...

I understand that you must feel very disappointed and left out because no one answered your post. Trust me, been there done that. Especially if you're counting on BYC to help you in an important situation, such as yours was. But this should be a learning opportunity that if you don't get help from a BYC thread that you posted, if it's really an emergency, try looking it up. Use the "Search" on your BYC toolbar. There may be many many threads that other people posted a while ago (or recently) that will have a similar situation as you and some helpful replies from other people that could help answer some or all of your questions. The thing is, many people don't go through and search for threads related to the problem, such as "egg bound". And so people who usually know a lot about it answer so many of the same questions on different threads that it becomes boring and time-consuming retyping the same answers and advice for the same questions. If you don't get a helpful reply quick enough, look it up. Or look it up beforehand and if you can't find any threads with information to help you, then you should make a thread.
Again, I'm so sorry for the loss of your hen and I'm sorry I'm too late, but the symptoms she was showing sounded like being egg bound to me.
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BYC is a great, supporting place with tons of helpful information and helpful people. Sometimes, if people can't answer you, you just have to search around a little to find some information that may have already been typed before. I hope you don't hold any grudges against BYC and its community.
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Thank you so very much "77horses" for your very thoughtful, well stated, response. It was very rational in my irrational state of mind. lol. You are so very right in all the points that you made. I wont be holding a grudge, I promise you that. I got a very nice PM message from Iowa Roo Mom as well. You, VTGIRL, and Iowa Roo Mom have restored my faith in people and reminded me of an important truth....don't judge people! I am sorry to BYC for my other post.
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As for my sweet hen, my husband said after she passed away, he tried to examine her again all over and does not believe she had an egg in her, but her crop was large. I had fed her oatmeal at around 6:00PM Wed, and after about 6 wet, green poops, we never saw any of the oatmeal. DH remembered a few days ago that he saw her find a large silk flower on the ground and she picked it up and he ran to her to grab it from her mouth but in it went so fast. So, he is wondering if that got stuck in her crop and could not get evacuated. If that is the case, I dont know if there is anything we could have done...............I mean how could we have retrieved it from her crop??

Oh, PLEASE, I hope that there was nothing I could have done, because if I could have saved her, I will feel so terrible. I would want to know though in case my little boogers decide to ingest something else they shouldnt be eating.

Thank you again for taking the time to impart your wisdom and helping me to think clearly. It has been an emotional day, that's for sure.

I hope you have a beautiful weekend!
 
I am saddened for you loss... I had some personal losses today.... I only wish they were chickens.
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Sorry for your loss! You were trying to do the best you could for your girl. I try to find these threads, because internal laying is one of the things I have sad experience with. I was already gone to work when you posted.

It sounds like the problem may have been an impacted crop, although it probably wouldn't have killed her in a day. There are things you can do for an impacted crop, although most of them wouldn't have worked on a silk flower. That would have required crop surgery.

We can't always figure out what to do in time. You tried your best.
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I hope I'm here for you if you need help with internal laying again.
 
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You're welcome.
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And I'm glad you have restored your faith in people...and BYC!
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I know how it feels, after you lose something and when you asked for help, it came too late. You sometimes say things you don't mean because at the time you are sad and aren't thinking clearly.

As for what you could have done, there is one thing...Although please do not feel terrible about it, because if the flower she ate did indeed cause complications (such as an impacted crop or something), there might not have been anything for you to do anyway. But I've read a post where someone had a hen whom had impacted crop (from eating too much grass all at once) and they performed "crop surgery" on her. Of course, they kept it clean and sterile and they knew what they were doing. I think they basically used a scalpel or some sharp knife to cut a line into her crop, then they pulled out all of the nasty grass that was tangled inside and sewed her back up and she was fine afterwords. Not sure about all the details, such as if they gave her a painkiller or something, etc...But I wish I knew where the thread was. It had pictures and how to do it properly. BUT, again, this might not have even helped her if the flower had been stuck in her crop. Unless you knew for sure that that was the problem, and you had the knowledge and supplies to perform surgery on her, then there was probably nothing else you could have done. Who knows...It could have been some type of a poisonous flower that she ate.
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I hope you have a much better day tomorrow and please don't feel too bad about your little hen. It sounds like you cared about her a lot because you were/are so upset about it. But please remember that you gave her a good life and she is now at peace in "chicken" Heaven.
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As for your rooster, maybe you could get him a nice, sweet hen to replace her so he won't be too lonely?

Good luck
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Thank you for your thoughtful words. Sorry that you have dealt with the internal laying. My husband was trying to remember which day he saw her eat the flower. He's not sure but it was likely during the weekend. So, she possibly had that flower in her blocking the passage for 4-5 days? We saw the rooster eat a piece of flower last fall but he apparently passed it. DH went around the yard and tried to find every little piece of flower he could find. We have window boxes on our chicken coop and kids' playhouse with silk flowers, but NO MORE!!

Thanks again!

PS-my mom and I use to ride Amtrak a lot and had layovers in Martinez!
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I am from Merced.
 
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Thank you for your thoughtful words. Sorry that you have dealt with the internal laying. My husband was trying to remember which day he saw her eat the flower. He's not sure but it was likely during the weekend. So, she possibly had that flower in her blocking the passage for 4-5 days? We saw the rooster eat a piece of flower last fall but he apparently passed it. DH went around the yard and tried to find every little piece of flower he could find. We have window boxes on our chicken coop and kids' playhouse with silk flowers, but NO MORE!!

Thanks again!

PS-my mom and I use to ride Amtrak a lot and had layovers in Martinez!
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I am from Merced.

It sounds possible that it was the flower. That's a long time to be blocked.

Amtrak is less than 1/2 mile from my house. I walk there when I want to take a train. How long have you been in Nebraska?
 
I'm sorry that I did not see your post
but I would like to point out that green liquidy poop is a common sign of Fowl Cholera --- a bacterial infection that you don't know you have until a "healthy" bird suddenly drops dead. I'm not saying your bird had it, but she could have. I lost a young cockerel to it a little over a month ago. He was up eating BOSS at noon and laying on the ground at 3pm, he had green and white liquidy poop that I assumed was from not eating, but later found out was a symptom of cholera. He was dead before the next morning.
Fortunately he was the only one, nobody else got sick, but ya never know. I didn't know what could have been wrong, so I sent the body off to the state diagnostic lab for testing. If you want to know what killed your bird, I highly suggest you find a vet to autopsy her for you. They gave a report on his organs (how infected they were) on a scale of 1 to 4, liver was 2, but his heart was 4+, so even if I had put him on the correct antibiotic as soon as he dropped over in the yard he still might have been too far gone.
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I understand now why people put chickens down quickly (rather than treating) is because there's not really a whole lot you can do for them when they are sick. I know it sucks.
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I promise if I don't answer a thread it's because I JUST DON"T KNOW what to tell you.
I really don't know for sure that a bird with Cholera can even be saved, because by the time they have symptoms they are pretty well gone.
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