Isolation ideas needed

ladyfromthewoods

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Feb 22, 2011
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south-central KY
I am sorry to have to ask, but I still need ideas after searching through the archives.
This is concerning isolating a bully hen.

Background: I have 5 hens. She is one of 4 Golden Comets and a Barred Rock. They have plenty of room, nutrition, water, light, protection, etc. She is pecking at the other 3 Golden Comets every time their now-bare backs are within her reach, with nonchalance as if they are something normal to eat! One hen is now bleeding so I must do something. Eating the bully is out of the question. I took Carla Emery's advice and tried iodine on the backs of the others but caught her at it again this morning. Our local TSC doesn't carry any anti-peck solutions.

So, my main question is about isolation. We live in a rural area where predators abound and the only cage I have available is a cat carrier (rather small but do-able, I think). Can that still be made to work? What about free-ranging? (I usually let them free-range as soon as they have all laid their daily egg, usually by noon every day.) What about roosting and keeping her clean? Can twine be tied to her leg to allow her to get limited free-range benefits after she lays her daily egg? Have you had success with isolating a bully hen then reintroducing her?

What clever ways have you isolated a bully?

Thanks in advance. I have so few girls that it's hard to let one go without trying every possibility, despite having limited resources for separating them in this situation.
 
I'd recommend finding out WHY she's pecking the others. I know you say you have adequate room, nutrition, water, light, protection, etc., but could you please be more specific? For instance, if they have white light 24/7 it could be the problem. If they're not getting a high protein diet, that could be the problem. If they are confined to the coop for the cold weather, that could be an issue.

There are lots of variables and it could be you just need to change one little thing to make it better. I only isolate if I really HAVE to, which has been once in 18 years. TSC carries Blu-Kote, which is a really good treatment, too. It's gentian violet, which will stain badly, but it works well.

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True, Ranchhand. I feed them a mixture of layer feed & scratch plus all our veggie & bread/cereal scraps (minus the ones on the "bad" list here.) I place most in their feeder and some on the ground in their run for fun, enough that they take about 30 min. to get it eaten out of the bowl. Frequency: once in the morning, again about 1-2 hours before they roost. I give oyster shell in the recommended amount. We give them the leftover buttermilk we have after I make butter each week, which is about 1/2 gallon given in intervals. Constant clean water is available.

They are in a location where they can get direct sunlight for the last half of the day if they are in the run, but they are usually free-ranging by noon anyway. No artificial light at night. The tractor was placed against the side of our house during this winter for added protection from the elements so that could be the change but it was done in early Nov. and she didn't start until about 2 wks ago and has gotten progressively worse. Our TSC does not carry Blu-Kote, said they'd have to order it. Idk why.
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I may tell them to just get on that.

Any shot in the dark may be helpful, so shoot away!

Ok, trying to figure out how to upload an image of the tractor is not working. I'm thinking the run is about 14'x4' with 3'-4' head space then the coop is 4'x3' with 2' height. But I'm guessing.

Thanks!
 
The coop seems small. 4x3 is adequate for 3 chickens.

You might try keeping her in the run while the others free range.

For the rest of the time, put her in the tractor or the pet carrier.

You might try buying hen aprons to protect the bald birds.
 
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Checking to see if I can get the image of our tractor to load.
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Yay! It did. This is a pic of it when it's in the yard during summer. At an angle so I don't know if this helps determine if we have too small a coop or not. We had to use scrap materials for the whole thing and was limited mostly with the plywood selection.
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I can tell you that all 5 chickens usually choose to roost side-by-side on the roost running from the front wall of the coop to the back instead of the cross section running from side-to-side within the coop. I'll try to upload a pic of the inside next.
 
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Chicken.Lytle :

The coop seems small. 4x3 is adequate for 3 chickens.

You might try keeping her in the run while the others free range.

For the rest of the time, put her in the tractor or the pet carrier.

You might try buying hen aprons to protect the bald birds.

Agreed.

They may be getting enough veggie and bread scraps to, in effect, reduce their protein intake. If you don't culture your buttermilk, this may be a problem. Look in the link below:

http://www.exoticpetvet.net/avian/dairy.html

You can also make your own hen aprons quite simply, even without sewing. Here you go:

http://www.backyardpoultrymag.com/issues/1/1-6/Joyce_Dixon.html

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=407575

No need at all to apologize for posting this thread. You searched and didn't find. Lots don't even do that. We're here to help!​
 
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Here is a pic that shows hubby cleaning some of the sawdust out of what will be the inside of the coop if that gives more perspective. Nesting boxes (3 approx. 10"x10" sit directing against the missing wall (which became the swing door.)

So is it agreed that the coop is too small and they just didn't have a problem until winter? Cabin-fever that hasn't been relieved by free-ranging b/c the grass is not back yet?
 
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I too agree the coop is a bit small for 5 full grown hens. If it started in the Winter it's likely because they were spending more time inside and less in the run. If it doesn't resolve itself with more time outside, I recommend permanent separation. Good luck.
 
Thanks ddawn on the milk article!!! That explains why a few will get the "squirts" the day after I give milk.
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I'll stop that!!!

I'm afraid to post too much OT for the coop design/isolation ideas b/c the problems with pecking really belongs in another thread, I suppose. I just thought isolation ideas would fall under coop design since many have isolation coops and cages.
 

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