If those birds were never flown, they need to learn to roll, the younger ones,,six months to under a year will come around the best, the older ones may never get "good" at it. but that is what new to flying , rollers do. it can take 4 months of flying to get the action going, and some are much...
Not sure how the orientals are but my BR's can out fly the hawks most times, I lost 7 out of 50 young birds last year, the main time they are at risk from hawks, is when there on the roof of the loft or standing around somewere, I found that when they are finished flying, get them in right away...
I use an aquarium heater for my bowls. i give water in a dog 1 gal holding tank.. heater works fine, plus i do use an outdoor ext. cord.. no issues so far..
Depends on if you want them for any other reason, flying, or showing, and eating the extra, or just a food bird/pigeon ,, if the later is what you want then shoot for Kings,
As far as loft goes, make it snug for winter... and think about water freezing.. in the drinkers... consider size you...
BOP are fun ... not! I lost a young roller yesterday thanks to a coopers.... im just off the migratory route but seems enough fly by going to there highway.. ... route west by southwest...
I'll let them out again today and see if anyone else is around...
Young roller pigeons, all 2014 banded, wormed , no pmv vacc. all healthy birds, mixed sexes, most are under 4 months.. I am changing blood lines, so will part with these.. will ship for cost, and have a few used one time boxes no charge.... PM if interested thanks.. They are trap trained and...
your best bet is NE pigeon supply, it'll make it in a few days.. if you wait too long it will be a mute point.. Yes its expensive, but if it works you save some pigeons, they will be carriers of it , that is what i have heard. but its better than waiting for them all to die or try to save a...
I have had birds stay from 5 days, settled and trap trained... I even had one escape from the shipping box on arrival.. it even stayed right here... i just let out my kit and they gathered him up.. he just wanted to stay out.. but in a couple days it trapped..
Then again after a month i have...
well i think in hind site, i used sheet tin on the floors of my loft some twenty + years ago,, it was a walkin, so the area was easy to clean with a hoe, and a spade scraper.. then just vacuumed it up.. threw into compost pile.. I think i'll price that out and see what the cost would be,, save...