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  1. 3KillerBs

    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    My apologies. I was trying to use my job experience on the "pointy end" of the industry to explain some of the practical difficulties with diverting retail food waste into animal feed. I didn't mean to get so far off track.
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    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    Yes to both questions. We currently sell 5 kinds of chicken salad, 3 of which come in prepared, one of which is made on chopped white meat that comes in a bag and one of which uses this chicken. Also, we use this chicken on pizzas, in quesadillas, in chicken soup (broth and veggies come in a...
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    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    ...managers are not only required to perform management duties but also have production tasks -- manning the various positions in my deli regularly. *Should* they have to do this? Maybe not -- though there is an argument to be made that it's good for everyone to have department managers...
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    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    Here's an example from my work today. I had 30 minutes to pick about a dozen cold rotisserie chickens. Bones, skin, meat cooked too hard to use, the elastic bands that are used to truss the chickens, and several pairs of gloves because my large worktable is about 5 feet from the nearest trash...
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    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    ...butchers cutting up large sections of carcasses anymore. The meat comes in vacuum-sealed in heavy plastic pre-trimmed from the factory. They do *some* cutting of these pieces into final portions, but there is very little waste from that cutting. Close date items are discounted. End-date...
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    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    ...a food pantry. Once they hit their sell-by date they can neither be sold nor donated. Period. Nor can employees take them home -- even though we *know* that there's nothing *really* wrong with that 4lb hunk of Muenster that I shrank out on Monday and that an unsold ham could have its life...
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    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    I figure that if it made economic sense to collect manufacturers' waste it would already be occurring. The public face of "food recycling" is always the idea of collecting from stores and restaurants, but working in a store I just don't see how it be implemented in a practical manner without...
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    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    I'll believe it when I see it. Lots and lots of ideas that sound good end up wrecking on the reefs of reality. I'd like to know *EXACTLY* how they plan on separating food from wrappers and random miscellaneous garbage that gets dropped into the wrong bin. I know that if I tossed a set of...
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    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    If this were cost-effective then it would already be happening since the conglomerates with both human and animal divisions would be eager to harvest the benefits and would have the economy of scale to work with. I doubt it could even be done at all. To take my job in the deli as an example...
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    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    The problem, I suppose, is in the logistics and labor costs of handling it. And keeping it free of packaging, etc. We throw out a shocking amount of food at the grocery store where I work, but I can't imagine how it could possible be salvaged because it would require special handling, extra...
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    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    A modern chicken isn't a jungle fowl and most of us don't live in a tropical/subtropical jungle. :D
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    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    Some kind of enhanced hardtack, I suppose. Getting sufficient fiber and fat into it without making it too bulky or too apt to go rancid would be tricky.
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    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    ...IIRC, it consisted of a fortified flour, fortified dry milk powder, and raw cabbage. There may have been some kind of cooking fat provided and I *think* that one of the secondary goals was that it would require minimal preparation since cooking fuel was not likely to be available for...
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    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    Fortunately I'm not picky and I don't tolerate picky chickens. :D
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    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    Not to mention the availability problem. I had to change feeds YET AGAIN today because the one I've been using for the past couple months has vanished from the farm store's inventory. I *think* I've found the right one that replaced it.
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    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    I've just moved my pen to give the birds access to fresh green stuff. Also I cleaned out the fridge, giving them access to cooked cabbage, carrots, broccoli, green beans, peas, yellow squash, and tomatoes in various mixes, also leftover chicken. They've also had some raw beets that had gone...
  17. 3KillerBs

    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    Then it seems likely that the source I read was wrong -- which is not uncommon, especially when it comes to folk knowledge rather than firm science. :D
  18. 3KillerBs

    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    I do not recall where I read it and I don't know if it's an accurate source, but I remember something about skim milk in the chickens' ration as a calcium source. Particularly suitable if the farm had excess milk from the production of butter.
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    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    I don't try to maintain a sterile environment in my brooder. I don't even change all the bedding between batches -- just shoveling out the most soiled areas and adding fresh on top. Based on advice from several members here, I put some bedding from the main coop into the brooder from time to...
  20. 3KillerBs

    new research debunks trad views on nutrition

    Cost is NOT irrelevant.
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