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  1. gmjarvi

    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    Thank you for sharing your experience! And for the name drop. I may try to contact him before spring and ask him if he thinks it's worth testing now, or waiting until spring. I meant small, NPIP certified breeders, not local backyard flock keepers (which is how I started my flock). I would...
  2. gmjarvi

    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    That's not a bad solution, actually. And something their parents would be more open to than if I asked them to go 6 months without their egg flock 😅
  3. gmjarvi

    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    I think I will have to strike a balance somehow because I can see their parents rolling their eyes at me if I tell them their kids need to shower when they get to my house 😂. I have heard that MG/MS can travel on your person, too, and even in your nose! So it could be spread by droplets, i would...
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    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    @Nendei when your birds had symptoms for ILTV, did you confirm with necropsy after culling? Also, I'm really sorry you had to experience that! It must have been devastating. I realize above i forgot that you were the same poster that had experience with this particular disease.
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    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    This is a polarizing topic in poultry that tends to get emotional. I'd just like to post a reminder of my original questions. I'm seeing some assumptions and generalizations being made about flock owners, and that's not why I'm here. Judging other flock owners doesn't help or answer my...
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    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    oh! Can you also explain/share your experience in guaranteeing that hatcheries are MG/MS, etc. free? I have read conflicting reports on this topic, making it hard to sus out the truth. I understand chicken breeders regardless of scale have to be NPIP certified to distribute poultry across...
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    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    ...have spread it to others that are not yet symptomatic. Hopefully with your biosecurity protocol you'll never need to deal with it, but I'm interested in hearing what your plan of action is. I think the "oh sh*t" plan is probably just as important as the prevention plan. Thanks for your input!
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    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    Your mom sounds like a wise woman! This sounds like a reasonable approach to me, but I do know some chicken people that have prized show chickens and might have a cardiac event if they had to butcher their favorite show bird! And absolutely, I would never willingly or knowingly endanger other...
  9. gmjarvi

    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    Okay, feel free to turn notifications off for this post! Thanks for coming.
  10. gmjarvi

    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    Take a couple deep, deep breaths! I'm not sure this is worth getting super worked up about. I don't have any plans to show birds in the near future, and have every intention of managing my flock responsibly. That's why I'm here! If you've been reading along, you'd know that I have every...
  11. gmjarvi

    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    Happy Thanksgiving! I've heard wild turkey meat is terrible, but I'd like to try it someday and see for myself 😉. I know I like grouse/partridge!
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    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    True
  13. gmjarvi

    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    I think this is part of my hang up. Without regular flock testing, how can you be sure that it's not present? In my mind it would make sense to test all or a mathematically significant portion of the flock rather than just one. NPIP testing varies by state, and I'm pretty sure in my state the...
  14. gmjarvi

    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    That made my eyes widen 😳 maybe I'm a little bit of a hippie, but the use of antibiotics without an infection present makes me squirm! We don't typically go to poultry shows, and our fair was canceled this year, but 4H is something I am interested in for my son when he's the right age. Several...
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    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    I'm curious as to where you read that MG cannot be passed from wild birds to chickens? I've not read that anywhere. It's also worth noting that lab tests for MG performed on species that aren't the normal species tested may not produce reliable results. At least, that's what my state extension...
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    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    It's a great point that not every wild bird is carrying MG or other chronic illnesses that are communicable to chickens, but wild birds can and do live a long time with chronic illnesses and are often loaded with parasites to boot. We have wild turkeys that roam the powerline right-of-way that...
  17. gmjarvi

    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    Yeah, I was a little scared to ask, too, for the same reason. But I'm also glad I asked. For biosecurity and free ranging, I think that depends on how close neighboring flocks are maybe? We are on 15 acres, and our birds don't wander super far, so I'm not super worried about infection from...
  18. gmjarvi

    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    Thank you for your perspective, I really appreciate it! There is so much information out there that it becomes hard to determine the best course of action. I would hugely prefer to have tight biosecurity, but was beginning to wonder if it would even be possible to have a flock that is truly MG...
  19. gmjarvi

    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    Thank you! For an update, my flock is now asymptomatic and still no deaths. My theory is that when the weather changes again in the spring there will be a flare up. I plan on doing some testing in the spring, but am still left wondering how realistic a mycoplasma free flock is, and still curious...
  20. gmjarvi

    Mycoplasma and management - Advice, experience please!

    I would check your state agricultural/veterinary extension for testing info. In Michigan you can get a couple different tests done for Mycoplasma - one costs $6/bird and the other costs $25 not including overnight shipping. One is a serum test, so I'd have to collect blood and separate out the...
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