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Yea , I have found that the upright carriage carries through fairly well . My base flock is 1/2 saipan 3/8 dark cornish and an 1/8 California grey(barred leghorn) the black has carried through fairly strong but the red from the saipans keeps getting wiped out , maybe due to silver in leghorns?

Do you have any pics of the leghorn cross ?

Mine have gone broody in their second year, even had two hens share a chick after squabbling over shared nest

more f1 saipan

pullet or cockerel? approximately 4 months

F1 saipans

So temujin I think I have seen pics of your birds on Craigslist is that you?

Won't start breeding anything till next year. all the old timers and show breeders say to wait till almost two if not longer to breed. It's hard to cull orientals due to the fact that a fast growing bird maybe the biggest for six months yet at one year old it may be different . I am also...

I live in east TN , yea it gets cold and nasty here even though right now it's been in the nineties .

Thanks , I am located in East Tn , got these girls from Ideal. Ordered 20 Pullets ,kept six even though maybe 3 are really nice with one bigger than the rest. I will be ordering 50 straight run next year to select a cock bird from and maybe another hen or two. I think hatcheries use pullet eggs...

Saipan Pullets at six months , what do you all think ?

six month old Saipan Pullet , just acquired six of them for breeding project to develop brown reds

Wouldn't the barring factor give a head spot and lighten the legs?

What I am asking is can I eventually get to the typical brown red game coloring after segregating the barred chicks out? What My goal is : have a true breeding brown/red that I will re-introduce the barring gene and should get sexable chick down if I work on leg color as well .

What will a barred leghorn roo over Saipan game look ? can i get to "brown red" this way ?