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  1. SimonGrow

    Shinto Dragon Jumbo Coturnix Project

    I've still got my birds but I'm listening to all the advice from members of this forum. The size of the birds hatching from my JMF stock is already perfect. I keep my birds on a GQF wire cage and the birds are already so big that I have to modify the cages so that they can stick their heads out...
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    Tatanka Breeders Club: Meat Quail project with history, discussion, pictures and videos

    Thanks for your support Bill. I'm glad there are still people with Tatanka birds out there. Tom8301, if your birds slowed down drastically around 4 weeks, there may be some factor at play. In my case, extreme heat slowed down the rate of growth of my birds, perhaps the cold is slowing down...
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    Tatanka Breeders Club: Meat Quail project with history, discussion, pictures and videos

    Please keep up the great work. You and the others involved in this project have provided so much useful information. I have used your standards and methods as a starting point for my breeding projects. I just want to mention that I found out it was my own fault that my original hatch of JMF...
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    Locating suppliers for quail and quail food

    Hello SuseyQ, I'm still new to quail so I'm not the best person to answer your question. You can see this thread has some information on breeding: https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/629414/tatanka-breeders-club-meat-quail-project-with-history-discussion-pictures-and-videos I plan to replenish...
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    Locating suppliers for quail and quail food

    I'm not sure where to get chicks but James Marie Farm has excellent quality eggs that you could hatch. I highly recommend you start with good quality genetics. Some backyard breeders may be inbreeding their stock to the point that their birds are very small, not as fertile, may not lay as many...
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    Need jumbo Quails

    Quails in the 400g range are more realistic. They my get to 500g but they can have leg issues and are probably older birds. James Marie Farms is the most reliable source of large birds in the USA that I know of but I don't know if they ship to your location. Viability will likely be extremely...
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    Shinto Dragon Jumbo Coturnix Project

    Hello WaterfowlWierdo, Thanks for the input. I'm just a backyard quail hobbyist so I do not have the facilities necessary to experiment much. I believe one of the most important aspects to raising Jumbo quail are total % of protein in their feed and commercially available feeds such as Purinas...
  8. SimonGrow

    Shinto Dragon Jumbo Coturnix Project

    Thanks dc3085! Do you think I will be negatively affecting my birds in any way by having my lights on for 11 hours, then off for 4 hours, on for thirty minutes, off for 4 hours, on for thirty minutes, dark for the rest of the night? I'm trying to delay egg laying so that more resources will go...
  9. SimonGrow

    Shinto Dragon Jumbo Coturnix Project

    I get quite a few double yolk eggs, I'm wondering if it was because I gave them artificial light for about 16-18 hours a day. I have cut back my lighting to approx 12 hours and I seem to get fewer double yolks. My James Marie Farm birds lay very large eggs. For my new line of quails coming in...
  10. SimonGrow

    Quail meat

    I've never raised bobwhites but I've done a lot of reading up on them and I would say Bobwhites are significantly more difficult to raise. They bite really hard and they are more difficult to grow out in colony pens around mating season. Coturnix are extremely easy to raise and they mature in...
  11. SimonGrow

    Quail meat

    There is no white meat Coturnix quail but there is a white meat bobwhite quail. Texas a&m quail are white feathered but dark meat. Simon
  12. SimonGrow

    Shinto Dragon Jumbo Coturnix Project

    I'm really excited to get my next set of eggs from James Marie Farm and I'm so glad Robby is helping me out. I will be receiving his new line of meat birds that is crossed with the Canadian line of jumbo Browns that JMF received in 2014. This new line is the meat makers and James Marie line...
  13. SimonGrow

    16-19 oz jumbo coturnix quail?

    Yup, pretty close. The more light hours they get, the sooner they lay eggs. There are many factors to consider however and the less light you give them, the less food they will be able to consume because I don't think they eat much when it's too dark. I've read people use a specific color of...
  14. SimonGrow

    Shinto Dragon Jumbo Coturnix Project

    I selected for bone size and height of bird with my first hatch of JMF meat maker birds. I had about 18 males from my first hatch and one male bird in particular was very tall and his legs were noticeably larger than all the other birds. This bird also weighed more at my weekly weigh ins so I...
  15. SimonGrow

    16-19 oz jumbo coturnix quail?

    Here is a great article that someone else from this forum posted in another thread. http://animalscience.ucdavis.edu/Avian/Coturnix.pdf I perhaps you can start your own line of delayed maturity birds? Simon
  16. SimonGrow

    Shinto Dragon Jumbo Coturnix Project

    I found this article posted by another forum member and feel it is worth reposting as it contains lots of beneficial information. http://animalscience.ucdavis.edu/Avian/Coturnix.pdf Simon
  17. SimonGrow

    16-19 oz jumbo coturnix quail?

    I'm not sure if it will actually work or not but decreasing the number of hours of light your birds receive may slightly delay the onset of maturity but this is just guessing. It is known that if you give birds a certain amount of light that it can stimulate it to lay eggs, even in winter. Based...
  18. SimonGrow

    Whats the best quail for me

    Sounds like a plan. I'm too new to quail to be able to candle my eggs and tell wether or not I have double yolks or not. I believe there is a larger dark spot if it's a double yolk. Simon
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    16-19 oz jumbo coturnix quail?

    Shamo123, I re read your post and 23C is only 73.4F which is still in their optimal temp range. Even if the temp in your covered or screened box is 10F higher, that's still only 83.4F. When I experienced the slowdown in the rate of growth of my birds, we had 100F+ temps for about two weeks...
  20. SimonGrow

    Whats the best quail for me

    The extra large egg in the picture was given to friends to eat so I am not sure if it was a double yolk or not but based on the shape of the egg, it is more wide and rounded, I believe it was a double yolk. The JMF birds lay very large eggs. Two weeks ago, I cracked open a 19 gram egg and it...
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