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  1. squabnrabbit

    Utility Pigeon daily ration

    Since you are in the midwestish you may have some luck sourcing from farmers. I have seen more than a few websites in the region that might work for you. I will try to find them once back to the computer (tablets can be a pain for posting stuff). They will still be more expensive than doves...
  2. squabnrabbit

    Utility Pigeon daily ration

    Easy to get is relative to where you are located. Believe me that my location means sourcing Utility breeds is a matter of minimum $500 dropped for shipping birds that you have not seen from conditions you don't know. In purchasing animals i like to have the option of seeing the conditions of...
  3. squabnrabbit

    Orpington looks like the best fit for me, but...

    Ha. Not stalking. I have numerous forums I read and post too. Nice to see I am not the only one bouncing around for information. In looking for chicken breeds cold hardiness and winter egg production was the primary need. Though with climate shifting here it seems we won't be getting quite...
  4. squabnrabbit

    Utility Pigeon daily ration

    From what I have heard dove squabs don't provide much meat in the range of 3 or 4 per person for a meal with the fixins. Certainly prolific though, but so are pigeons (outside the fancy/show scene). Homers would probably be much better. Some of them can approach the sizes of the Utility breeds...
  5. squabnrabbit

    Utility Pigeon daily ration

    Thought that might be the case for the Indian Mondaines. If I can't find a supplier near me for Kings I will just go the homer route. There are thirty racing homer keepers I know of within about four hours of me. Most of them sell their young birds at $5-15. Much better than $75 per bird...
  6. squabnrabbit

    Utility Pigeon daily ration

    Nice that was a good link. I am going to assume that the higher 50 grams is closer to the norm for Utility breeds. So about 1.7 ounces. I was just reading an article about the Indian Goya and the Indian Mondaine. I wonder if anyone is still raising the Mondaine version. Might be an option if a...
  7. squabnrabbit

    Utility Pigeon daily ration

    I have looked through that site a bunch of times. There is some good info but i am leary of buying utility birds from show people. They are responsible for destroying numerous utility breeds here in the US. The only one that is still prolific is the Kings and that is because thye dominated the...
  8. squabnrabbit

    Utility Pigeon daily ration

    I plan on having ducks or chickens for eggs and meat as well. I have wanted to keep pigeons for ages though as I think squab is the tastiest bird on the planet. The Homer keepers I have spoken to all eat their squabs more to keep from overpopulating. I know there are some who keep utilities for...
  9. squabnrabbit

    Utility Pigeon daily ration

    No doubt about that. Unfortunately the places i have found who will sell me utility pigeons have a minimum order of 8 pairs. Shipped here will run minimum 500 bucks. Big initial investment. So may be longer tetm for utilitys. Homers seem a good way to start and get some experience. I am...
  10. squabnrabbit

    Utility Pigeon daily ration

    I had read that article by motherearth news. While it may be accurate i am slightly.skeptical. i have noticed a tendancy by them to go a bit cheerleadery and overstate some info. From talking to pigeon keepers most have stated their pigeons cost less for feed than their chickens. This makes...
  11. squabnrabbit

    Utility Pigeon daily ration

    Yeah, I have been digging through the older threads for a while. Haven't found much besides general info about raising them. Not a word about how much they eat a day or even in a month. I will keep digging but eventually I will just go for it and find out for myself.
  12. squabnrabbit

    Orpington looks like the best fit for me, but...

    My sister had multiple dual purpose breeds to start on the same property. The only ones that dropped any eggs in winter were the Orps. They slowed down in winter but still were laying. She heated the chicken shed with a heat lamp and had some CFLs in to supplement light in the deep dark of...
  13. squabnrabbit

    Montana

    Thanks! I was born in Livingston and lived in Helena and Missoula (for the longest stretch). Spent the last 4 years in Portland before it got too expensive to survive there. Holy high rent batman! It feels good to be back in this huge low population state!
  14. squabnrabbit

    Orpington looks like the best fit for me, but...

    I think that the Orpington breed would work best for where I am and what I am looking for in my chickens. That said I could certainly be guided to another similar breed if they meet my requirements. I chose the Orpington because they are cold hardy and will lay all winter (hello 6ish months of...
  15. squabnrabbit

    Utility Pigeon daily ration

    I know for normal sized pigeons the daily ration amounts to about an ounce of grain per day with some fluctuations. I am interested in Utility breeds though and their size and rapid squab production surely means they need a larger ration. What I would like to know from other Utility pigeon...
  16. squabnrabbit

    Montana

    New Member from Ryegate, Montana. (well I will be there soon at least) Presently in Helena as I hunt that whole job thing. I am pretty sure I will be commuting down to Billings for work. i will be moving into a 3bdrm on an acre with 7 acres behind it that belongs to my sister (who is out of...
  17. squabnrabbit

    Pigeons of Montana They all seem to be homers...

    I am leaning towards King pigeons for squab in the near future. The problem is pigeon breeders in Montana are few and far between and mostly are rasing racing homers. If thats all I can get to start I will deal with smaller squabs but I am hoping there are some squabbers somewhere in Montana...
  18. squabnrabbit

    Greetings from the plains of the Big Sky.

    I am about to move into a little old three bdrm on an acre out on the plains of south central Montana. I have lots of plans for gardening and small livestock. I thought it made sense to start an account here instead of just lurking and reading. I certainly have many questions that I will be...
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