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  1. mcbeers

    CS15 -- The Official Michigan Chicken Stock Information Thread for June 20, 2015

    Well, I was agreeing with him. All I had seen was a letter from Dr. Averill. I don't think RaZ had seen the quarantine notice either. But I'm not sure. I doubt there is authorization to cancel events in that document, but a quarantine is a bit more specific. Chickenstock is more of a family...
  2. mcbeers

    CS15 -- The Official Michigan Chicken Stock Information Thread for June 20, 2015

    I'm not sure what you are pointing to in the first document. It's 30 pages, and I didn't quickly see anything about cancelling swaps. However, the second document I had not seen until now. To actually declare a quarantine is a whole other thing than saying swaps are "cancelled". Maybe it is just...
  3. mcbeers

    CS15 -- The Official Michigan Chicken Stock Information Thread for June 20, 2015

    I agree with RaZ. Dr. Averill says that all these events that MDARD has not even planned are "cancelled". He can't cancel events, carte blanche. He didn't even say that gathering to sell poultry is prohibited, or say what the penalty is, or say who would be penalized, or say who would be...
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    CS15 -- The Official Michigan Chicken Stock Information Thread for June 20, 2015

    Well, I'll be glad to see you RaZ.
  5. mcbeers

    CS15 -- The Official Michigan Chicken Stock Information Thread for June 20, 2015

    I'm not a good friend, but my family will be there. Lol
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    Michigan Member List- In MI? Come join our list of fellow Michiganders

    Personally, I would never ask the code enforcement people what the law is. They have nothing pushing them to be honest about it, or to not give you their interpretation of it. I would ALWAYS look for the ordinances online first. More and more municipalities have them online. It seems like most...
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    Michigan Right to Farm Law, what does it mean?

    Thanks. I wish you would have just copied and pasted that from your previous threads in the first place, instead of insulting the people who are doing all that they know how to do to stay out of jail and keep their chickens. I enjoy learning information like this, and I'll keep it all in mind...
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    Michigan Right to Farm Law, what does it mean?

    I can't speak for the people who have fought their cases, and I can't say I know enough about the legal system, because I haven't had to fight my own case. But some of these people have appealed. We shouldn't have to go to court in the first place, let alone appeal. We shouldn't have to pay...
  9. mcbeers

    Michigan Right to Farm Law, what does it mean?

    I'm pretty sure there are some people who would disagree with you about the attorneys being hard pressed to bring something against them for raising chickens, etc. You did say "valid". But what do you do when a judge decides against you?
  10. mcbeers

    Michigan Right to Farm Law, what does it mean?

    There are a handful out there. This one seems to be the one getting the most attention. http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/protect-small-farms-in.fb41?source=s.icn.fb&r_by=7701470
  11. mcbeers

    Michigan Right to Farm Law, what does it mean?

    Unfortunately they are appointed by the governor. http://www.michigan.gov/mdard/0,4610,7-125-1572_2878-8251--,00.html
  12. mcbeers

    Michigan Right to Farm Law, what does it mean?

    So we are forced to pay taxes. They take our taxes and use them to make a food system we object to. Then take more of our taxes and force us to buy into their horrible food system. How much of our hard earned wages are we going to be forced into giving to this government that is supposed to work...
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    Michigan Right to Farm Law, what does it mean?

    Does your HOA actually have a rule against chickens, or are they operating under the local ordinance? If you win in court against the township, but the HOA has no rule about chickens, it seems like it would be over, unless someone proposed adding a rule.
  14. mcbeers

    Michigan Right to Farm Law, what does it mean?

    I agree that the RTFA already protects anyone who wants to have a commercial operation. There is nothing wrong with people wanting to have their ordinances changed to allow chickens with or without restrictions. Not everyone wants to jump through all the hoops and to fight city hall. And like...
  15. mcbeers

    Michigan Right to Farm Law, what does it mean?

    I had to go look it up, because my first flock of chickens came from friends in Sterling Heights who were made to remove their birds. See SECTION 3.01. PERMITTED USES. "B. Agriculture, provided that on parcels of less than eight acres, there shall be no raising of livestock, fowl or other...
  16. mcbeers

    Michigan Right to Farm Law, what does it mean?

    I don't believe anyone would be grandfathered in by the state. The individual municipalities could do whatever they like, but I doubt many if any of them would be helpful. Especially if they already viewed the farm as breaking their laws. I don't think there has been much to report, other than...
  17. mcbeers

    Michigan Right to Farm Law, what does it mean?

    Without getting into the specifics of RTF, I would just like to give a small piece of advice to be cautious about approaching your township pre-emptively. They may be willing to talk to you, and be reasonable. But if they have the law on their books they probably are of the opinion that...
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    Michigan Member List- In MI? Come join our list of fellow Michiganders

    https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/797074/michigan-chickenstock-2014-planning-ahead
  19. mcbeers

    Michigan Right to Farm Law, what does it mean?

    Thanks Randy, I (and she) really appreciate that. I know there have been a handful of people who had swayed the opinion of their cities with some good info. I appreciate the time they put in getting the info together. And I feel bad that I have never taken the time myself. But thankfully...
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    How to get chicken laws changed in Shelby Township, MI

    Who in here has had success with delivering some sort of information packet to your local municipality, when cited for an ordinance violation? I've got a good friend who was just asked this morning to remove her flock, because rats... Nevermind that the city/county pushed all the rats out of the...
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