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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    Do you have Ed Pipers writings/articles? Compilation exist in a book called “The Best of Fulldrop” off top of my head. It tells the history of the original Sandy Hatch fowl, and again, it’s convoluted. Imagine the best of the best, off the boat in waves in and around New York City 100 years...
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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    I understand your train of thought. We do not know for certain what occurred, names are misused and thrown around and histories can be contradictory. I forget where I saw it now, but there are several various strains of Japan gamefowl under the “Shamo” name. There exist(ed) several body types...
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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    Have you considered that either Dr. Clarke imported both mongrel “Cornish / Peasant Malay / Indian Game” as the English-bred, non-game, meat/exhibition variety was then known as, and also actual Asil, true Indian Gamefowl; or, that there was simply a confusion when it came to what to call these...
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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    This is a drawing I saw recently of “Cornish Indian Game as bred by C. D. Smith, Ft. Plains, NY, 1897. Most of my research is from gamefowl literature, namely Finsterbusche and Atkinson books, which get cited and used as resources and reprinted. So who knows, I was not there. What I do...
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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    I am not here to argue history I wasn’t around for. Was sharing some of what I learned through conversation and research. More important than those is observation, and adjusting where needed. Contradictions can be found in gamefowl history, that I am certain of. I don’t know what occurs...
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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    There are several Asil articles that may be found yet, I have a vague memory of Canadian Asil. Spud is still used in the US to describe as far as I understand it, smaller Asil families of Stan Wardell’s Asil, but I don’t recall their history further than that. I’m assuming there is a...
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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    One of my bull stags, based on “Reynolds”, indirectly from Mr. Hanson and Mr. Grissom. The quality, dedication and preservation of Asil was immediately apparent.
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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    www.youtube.com/@topqualityaseel2892
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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    Here is the 2010 article I think you’ve mentioned, from Feathersite: https://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/Games/Asil/EverettMReynolds.html The article has some inaccurate information. Mr. M. Reynolds did not breed, nor did he import into the US, Hyderabad Asil. He bred black “Asiatics” of...
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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    I’m not familiar with Aseel Asil if that is a handle or something. Saw some YouTube videos of Top Quality. Never spoke to him. Just saw him in Pakistan with fowl explaining he was trying to import, not sure if he did or not.
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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    There are original Asil like your fowl in Virginia. I know what you mean about the distinctive look. Herbert Atkinson, and those drawing and painting, are of Asil fowl he obtained while living in India. So they would have been observed from native fowl on native soil, not removed and bred...
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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    Asil brood cock, my red line I started with. Reynolds/Hanson/Vilorio / Reynolds/Harris/Grissom ‘Pakistani’ asil. Blended lines before I got my original pair. Smaller Asil stags have all that but were from an outcross from a cock from Mr. Clark. His Mr. Grissom Asil blood.
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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    Asil yard stag.
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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    My Asil stag on the yard. His brother is in a pen(s) for stud mating. These Asil are very athletic and able to roost with the American game hens. My grey line at 6 pounds, is as large as I’ve seen able to survive for more than a couple years free range in the Northeast, US. My other...
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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    “…from the Notebooks of Herbert Atkinson of Ewelme”, Nimrod Press LTD, 1977.
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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    13 centuries is a long time. The Asil your family has maintained, care to share what they look like? From what I understand, the old blood, and obviously folks in Pakistan and India still have them, have an outline/profile that extends from the head, angles like a slope down to the tail, no...
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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    My grey Asil brood cock.
  19. RFoxfire

    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    A late hatch stag, direct from Mr. C. Hanson. Not a ‘Hyderabad’.
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    American Reza (Pakistani) Asil

    Full brother to the previous red stag.
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