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    Let’s Talk About Bird Flu

    Sorry Molpet. I have Long Covid too (brain, heart and POTS). I believe the best thing to do with dead birds if you can’t deliver them to state autopsy facility is to bury them fairly deep. H5N1 survives freezing temps and can last for 150 days in water so you’d want to avoid further spread...
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    Let’s Talk About Bird Flu

    The checklist in the thread below looks good to me. Humans that come into contact with infected poultry (as opposed to the cow strain) have had the most severe/deadly cases so I’d also include PPE and general birdie biosecurity (changing shoes/clothes, no contact with outside birds, etc)...
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    Let’s Talk About Bird Flu

    The symptoms for H5N1 in chickens are shown below, but 90% of chickens who contact it die within 48 hours. Please note that H5N1 has been found in dozens of other mammals (including raccoons, foxes, bears, bobcats, rats and squirrels see map) but is most likely to be carried by waterfowl...
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    Bird Flu in Dairy Cattle

    Someone asked how it might be migrating herd to herd above and I thought of the image below. >70% of all herds in California have now been infected. 😩 https://t.co/gGywFJBFnO
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    Bird Flu in Dairy Cattle

    Thanks. There’s now a young child in California who has tested positive, no known contact with cows or birds, route of transmission is unknown.
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    Bird Flu in Dairy Cattle

    They’ve sequenced the variant the BC teen contracted and it’s an exact match for a goose? Also the first cases in Hawaii were announced, found in a backyard flock.
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    Bird Flu in Dairy Cattle

    No. The majority of ppl who have contracted it so far work with either dairy or poultry directly. The kid in Canada had contact with a sick dog (tested negative) and cats (not tested) but no birds/livestock. I’m not sure where all the virus in wastewater is coming from, but there sure is a lot...
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    Bird Flu in Dairy Cattle

    More details here. https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-11-15/h5n1-bird-flu-infects-six-more-humans-in-california-oregon
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    Bird Flu in Dairy Cattle

    Yes I read through it. I have little trust left in the CDC with the way they’ve handled Covid, which ravages our immune systems and is still killing over a thousand Americans most weeks. The news is coming in faster than the CDC can update:
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    Bird Flu in Dairy Cattle

    5 more human cases of H5N1 were reported today in California, as well as one human case in Oregon. They also published details about the infected teen in Canada, who has a mutation that matches a strain found in a wild goose. It’s got the same adaptation (E627K) found in cattle that is making...
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    Bird Flu in Dairy Cattle

    Plants & extracts with some some anti-avian influenza properties include echinacea, garlic, prickly pear, cacao, ginger, green tea, bloody geranium, Capparis sinaica veil, elderberry, cistus icanus, aloe vera, marsh mallow, nigella black seed & more...
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    Bird Flu in Dairy Cattle

    I have no idea… are there regulations to keep them from using it on fields of produce? 👀😳
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    Bird Flu in Dairy Cattle

    It has already gone mammal-to-mammal in multiple species including elephant seals & sea lions, cats (in Poland) and minks and those are not likely related to chicken poop feed https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-53766-5
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    Bird Flu in Dairy Cattle

    The updates are coming in fast, and the CDC is recommending full PPE whenever working with poultry & livestock.
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    Bird Flu in Dairy Cattle

    Ahh sorry, I copied that link from an old post of mine and it looks like the WHO has updated their website to a tab format. This link should work. https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/influenza-h5n1 This is an update on where we’re at with mutations, I don’t understand it...
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    Bird Flu in Dairy Cattle

    It may have started with the feed, but I think at this point the there has been so much transmission and mutation that there’s no containing it even if feed practices were immediately changed across the board. I won’t share the pics of the cows but here in Cali several people have reported...
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    Bird Flu in Dairy Cattle

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    Bird Flu in Dairy Cattle

    H5N1 trial from USDA: H5N1 is spread between cattle by both the respiratory and mammary route ‘Respiratory disease was mild in the heifers, but infection was confirmed by replicating virus detection in the airways and lungs , as well as seroconversion. Thus asymptomatic cows are able to spread...
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    Bird Flu in Dairy Cattle

    This image shows the map of counties testing with positives in wastewater in California, and a theory for why below. One study shows it is killed by pasteurization, but another showed live virus could slip through at the temps/time currently used in the process. It’s definitely been found in...
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    Bird Flu in Dairy Cattle

    Here are some more details, they’ve now found positive cases in 7% of the dairy workers tested in the US. Some have contracted it while masked, but without eyewear. It’s less likely to be carried by song birds than by geese & other waterfowl (who can be asymptomatic carriers) because it lasts a...
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