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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    Thanks! Any insight on brewer's yeast?
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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    Doesn't it have silica and other minerals?
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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    What about brewer's yeast and DE? Any other ingredients I should consider? Thanks!
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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    (nutritional numbers from previous advice here and basic google search) The (imperfect) list so far: - oats (11%p - 4%f) - field peas (25.5%p - 1.6%f) - fish meal (65%p - 9%f) - kelp (8.5%p) - enzyme pack Maybe's: - pearl millet (11.2%p - 4.3%f) - quinoa (24%p - 10.3%f) - teff (12.2%p - 3.7%f)...
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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    OK, so here is the plan. This mill is pretty busy and help fairly limited, so I don't want to go there asking about particular ingredients. I want to complie a list first, then go get the details and pricing for everything, come back home to polish out the details for the recipe and place the...
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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    What else could I use besides sorghum? I am looking at millet and lentils. Possibly alfalfa and sunflower seeds (afterall)
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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    I agree, it would be nice to see a link to study showing all this and possibly more info.
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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    From what I gathered, 4 basic types/groups of phytoestrogens are: isoflavones, stilbenes, coumestans, and lignans. They have different impact. I am still learning. I am sure most plants have at least minimal amounts of phytoestrogens, so there is no escaping them, but what really matters is how...
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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    Yes, the enzyme part is suspect per what I have found so far. I am skipping corn as ingredient and only use it as bait/snack in very small amounts per chicken. What else should I consider that brings the good enzymes and nutrition to the table?
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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    Thank you. I have seen 5% too, so that's what I had in the calculation. Here are updated numbers. More than 2/3 of the reciple are oats (and have to be, at least in Amish store scenario, which is also all non-GMO and organic ingredients) Amish store: ~5% kelp granules (8%p - 0%f) ~70% ground...
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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    Thanks for confirming this. I will change the fish meal ratio to 10%. What's the highest number you would use for kelp?
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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    What are the protein and fat numbers that you have for field peas?
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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    From brief wikipedia search it looks like just under 13% of protein, so it's better than most US-based grains. Not sure how widely available it is in US and if chickens native to US can fully digest it.
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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    Are you sure on 10% fish meal? Yes, it's expensive but it might be cheaper to do x amount of fish meal vs 4x amount of something else, for the same end result in protein %
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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    Excellent idea and I already started researching soldier fly larvae farming totes. This would be seasonally only, unless I find something that can be raised indoors without much hassle (including smell,etc.)
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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    The mill that said they can mix mostly anything said it's "field peas"
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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    Apologies for being away for few days. Lots of things broke down and I am the only one to fix them. I talked to the local mill where we used to buy feed more than 10 years ago and they are willing to mix even a small batch (500lbs/10 bags) and the fee comes up to about $2 for mixing and $2 for...
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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    1) It's not an allergy. 2) Empirical evidence beats published research. I really would like to avoid a discussion on this. It is what it is. 3) You are correct, I actually found little more info about it last night, when I finally had some time to look into phytoestrogens. So sunflower seeds...
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    Help needed customizing low estrogen and gluten free feed

    This is going to be difficult and probably expensive. Because of my wife's serious illness, she has to avoid all estrogen mimicking foods, including soy and flaxseed. Yes, this applies to eggs from soy fed chickens too. We tried and checked that. Because of mine and my kids gluten sensitivity...
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