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Ah, I just noticed something about the Wheatens that I never noticed before. I don't own any so I didn't know this, but probably the biggest difference between the Black Copper and Wheaten is the saddle feathers. The Wheaten doesn't have copper saddle feathers-they're a dark mahogany red:

Ohooo-I've never heard that. The BCs belong to a completely different genetic family from the wheatens-they may look the same, but aren't they completely different genetically? http://marans-club.club.fr/ncuiang.htm#NCUI Editing to add this: I went over the page again and it does state that...

Quote: That's exactly correct as far as I can tell from everything I have read. It's not uncharacteristic for the Black Copper variety to show color on the upper breast at all. And that goes for the hens as well as the roosters although it's less common with the hens. According to the...

The wing colors are different. Wheaten roos have brown feathers on their wings. The translation at the French site has this (they need help with their spelling but they also provide a picture so it seems pretty clear): "the wing miror of wheat-colored cock is "citinamon-brown. When the wing is...