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Well, THAT was cagey of them! Hatcheries and breeders should always know where their stock originated!

Would it be safe to assume that most of the rare breeds of chickens in recent years originally ordered by hatcheries as well as by private breeders are from Greenfire Farms who have been credited with importing many new and unusual breeds? You might ask Murray directly where they acquired their...

@piminuse How exciting!

@Fosmorefarm 3 yrs ago GF probably had a larger staff -- easy for one person not to know everything about a business. I've been told to contact certain personnel for answers and at one business I found the receptionist more informed than the person who was recommended! W/ Newcastles...

I'm so sorry for your experience w/ GF. They have such a huge operation that I suppose info can get misdirected. I guess I have a soft spot for the kind of business they run so am inclined to think that their multiple personnel don't all have the expertise to answer all info correctly. All...

I understand that like any of us humans Greenfire has its pluses and minuses -- but in the long run some of us who have rare chicken breeds in our backyards owe most of it to Greenfire for using their own expense to import them in the first place. It's expensive obtaining poultry permits...

Just because Greenfire doesh't list Neiderrheiner on their website doesn't necessarily mean they don't have some. In any case, Greenfire can at least let you know what breeders they sold Neids to in the past -- maybe have Greenfire contact their past customers for you and see if the previous...

Hurray! I love hearing good news like this!!!

Have you contacted TheTropix or Vorksigan to see if they can ship you eggs in the Spring when hens start laying again?

@nikkers390 So your only LC Nied is a roo and no LC hens for him? So sad :(. At least he's a survivor :). Might be worth it to get a couple full LC pullets/hens to keep his bloodline going seeing as how these birds are so rare? Wish I could breed but I'm not zoned for more than 5 hens and...

How many total birds did you have and how many do you think you lost? Those darn hurricanes scare me! Sorry for your losses.

@TheTropix Sent you a PM.

@TheTropix PM's are found in the BYC Inbox at the top of the BYC website. I got my PM from BW56.

@BW56 TY again for PM'ing info about the AZ breeder!

@Vorksigan - Boy! I HOPE everyone's Neid's are doing OK! I lost one of my Dominique pullets in our 115 degree (122 heat index) -- I had 3 beautiful Dom girls but one just couldn't handle the heat. Everyone else did fine -- even the little 2-lb Silkie -- but I suspect the Dom girl we lost...

@TheTropix Beautiful!!!!!! One cockerel and 5 pullets? The golden color of the cuckoo pattern is so-o-o gleaming! I like the way they all turned to look at the camera LOL!

@TheTropix Another chicken website to check out: https://www.chickenforum.com/

@TheTropix Silly question here but have you contacted/PM'd previous Nied people on this thread? It's hard to believe there aren't still some people with Nieds in their flocks. Even if they aren't breeding they may have a bird or two they could trade with you for breeding diversity. It was a...

What would be great to know is just exactly what breeds of chickens were used to develop the Nieds. Obviously a Barred breed of chicken (possibly a European Malines?) and what other breed(s)? would be good to know to use those same breeds for cross-breeding to infuse diversity and breed back to...

From what I understand from someone who had Isbars -- they were facing a zero hatchability problem with the early Isbars. Then Greenfire Farms found a bacterial problem with those first imports so GFF imported a new set of Isbars but by that time the owner from the first batch of imports was...