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  1. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    While they can jump.......if given a space to crawl through, likely as not they will do that.....one time. All my wires are hot. When experimenting with this alternating concept, you may be the one who has to work it out. Using step in posts, I'd start with bottom wire hot, 2nd wire up...
  2. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    Start with 3 and see what happens? Trick will be to get the spacing right so they get zapped while trying to crawl through.....and not attempt to crawl under or step or hop over. As for the rest, I have personally witnessed my 4 wire fence take on a great dane mix and a pit bull, both at a...
  3. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    Always pleased to see folks using the e-fences. So much to offer for those willing to try it. Two thoughts come to mind in desert dry conditions. First is the ground rod part of the equation. Only so much you can do.....once you have multiple rods, etc. And as you noted, if the ground the...
  4. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    Dry conditions present two problems. First is the fire danger, which has largely been eliminated by low impedance fencers (which today, is almost all of them). https://blog.kencove.com/low-impedance-vs-high-impedance/ The second issue is very dry soil, which may not conduct the juice as well...
  5. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    Feel free to phrase away............
  6. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    Hmmmm......a consulting gig? This might turn into a way to make some money if I was smart enough to charge for what I do, which I'm not. Short answer......yeah, kidding aside, I'd come down to take a look. What you describe also sounds like a way to do some experimenting with what works and...
  7. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    If building a fence from scratch, what I like to do is set my gate next to where my charger is. Say the charger is on the right side of the gate when facing the gate from the outside. Gate handles then go on the right side. The fence loop then returns on the left side. That way, when you drop...
  8. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    The training process that seems to work best for me is to use just the bottom single wire at first.......all my birds seem to find it by just walking up to it and stepping on it to go over. Hits them on the bottom of their foot. For most, that seems to end the travel. After that, I add the 2nd...
  9. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    PS: Forgot to mention........that is exactly the type of fence that will protect your birds and keep them in and alive and predators out. You or that other person did a really good job on that. :thumbsup
  10. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    thanks for sharing the photo. I see two issues. As I see it, from the bottom up, you are using positions 1, 3 and 5. If only running three strands, I'd use 1, 2 and 4. They won't get past that without getting zapped, and that will entice a dog or other varmint to try to crawl through the fence...
  11. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    How far apart are your wire strands? Bottom strand from the ground and each strand from each other. (Post a picture of your setup if possible) What fencer are you using and have you tested it for line voltage? If I wanted to bait it so the chickens would learn, I'd scatter grain under and...
  12. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    You are welcome. That information was put together and left in hopes that you (and others like you) would find it. If this is to be a long term (year or more) or permanent fence, I'd use 17 gauge aluminum wire. It's more durable. If this is to be a temp fence that you will be moving around, I...
  13. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    I thought the issue of snow had been discussed on this thread, but maybe not? Anyway, so this is what is going on today........ We are up to 18 to 20 inches so far, with more on the way. Snow has nearly buried all 4 wires.....only top wire is showing and even it is gone in places. Fencer...
  14. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    No......but it might launch them about 10 feet in the air.......once. They may get near it after that, but probably won't be crossing it much after that. Except if they do get out, in a panic, they may lift up and hop over it to get back in. None of mine have been out in over a year.
  15. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    This is what I use: http://parmakusa.com/product/professional-digital-fence-tester/ I prefer the digital ones that give you a numerical readout. As long as it has that, brand may not matter. I got mine from Amazon, but it appears they are not currently available from them. Found this on...
  16. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    Finnie: Reference to posts was to Ms. Diva, who at the time had about 62,000 BYC forum posts to her credit. I checked and it is now over 75,000. That is a lot of posting! (but to all sections of the forum). There is a method to test the GFI outlet to see if it trips. Simply ground out your...
  17. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    Well I'm definitely full of something. Maybe information too? Your question is probably one best suited to the Raising Baby Chicks forum. There are a lot of folks who hang out there who know more than me and would have some good advice to share. But since you asked, I'll take a stab at it...
  18. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    Since the last post, I have noticed a number of predator related posts that likely could have been avoided if the person had installed and was using an electric fence. The issue is that without some form of deterrent like an electric fence, which is on guard 24/7, rain or shine, day or night...
  19. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    I have a similar issue on the hot wire surrounding a spent garden area that I now have the birds using as a playpen. They get to run around under old sweetcorn stalks, sunflower stalks, tomato vines and now a patch of fall turnips. One side of this garden area is bounded by a woven wire fence...
  20. Howard E

    A treatise on Electric Fencing

    Who's privacy fence is it? Yours or the neighbors? Either way, unless you are going through some type of blood feud with the neighbor, I'd run it on the outside, and just below the top of the fence. That way, any climbing predator is going to have to get past it to get over the obstacle. A two...
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