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The device I'm thinking of were ones we used where I worked. Had multiple sensor wires, like a dozen or more, temps were recorded on a graph paper cylinder...kinda like an EKG machine. Have no idea how it worked, I only handled documenting the resulting data. They were used for...

Should have used the submersible heater with the HN's. ;) Ever used/built a device to record(graph output) multiple heat probes? Would be interesting to see the temps at various heights inside bucket with either heater.

It fit in the jug I wanted to use :D and I had read about someone using one successfully.

What I did, before I had the heated waterer is to have two 1-gallon open gravity waterers, and I'd just swap them out every morning. Got snow down there? A bowl of snow in the coop can work for 'emergency' back up water. Mine still love to eat snow despite the heated water in the coop.

Your first link did not work for me...so I don't know what your PVC waterer looks like. If you have power (to run pipe heating cable) there are better options.... ...and horizontal nipples are the way to go in all temps, IMO. This is what I use all year round, adding heater and insulation in...