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Let's change this around a bit. I still have Houdans ordered from Duane Urch in 2013, along with a couple of other breeds. Who else is out there with Duane Urch stock? Let's make this a roll call. Starting a new thread. Roll call at: Duane Urch stock locator thread

Mr. Urch's? They were dispersed some time ago.

Duane Urch was very close to pairs and trios in many breeds toward the end. Remember how many breeds and varieties he (70-80 years old) and his son in law (50s -60s) were caring for and selling. Not just large fowl, but geese, turkeys, bantams. This was not a large commercial hatchery.

Remember if you will, that a decent sized hatchery flock like Cackle's includes well over 50 birds, multiple cocks. This is not a highly homogeneous group like an exhibition breeder's linebred flock of a cockbird, his daughters, granddaughters and great grandson. Or a tiny gene pool like...

Wi With a start of 16 birds you ought to be able to maintain enough diversity to avoid genetic collapse... Do individual matings and keep good records. I'm not in favor of indiscriminately crossing different bloodlines, it's like soup... once you add poo to soup, you're stuck with poo in the...

Going back to the start of the topic.. the University of Arkansas lost their Houdan flock some time before the breeds program was shut down, the details I do not know. Their work was based on a small initial input of 16 Houdans purchased from Cackle Hatchery around 2006. Whether they bought more...