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@Blooie I started using the MHP since I read your article & never regretted it. Chicks are quieter and not skittish, better adjusted than with the lite. That's what's so great about this site, we learn from each other :hugs

Climate here isn't at severe as you all, I don't use a heat lamp. Instead I use a 40 - 60watt incandescent bulb with a clamp on lamp and also a MHP (heating pad). Start off in the house in a plastic bin before moving out to the brooder in the patio (2wks).