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My respones have been to inform the differences in the two entirely different standards. Both countries watch football games. Here it is with an egg like ball, their it is with a round ball. And like with Orps, neither have any relation to each other, but their both called FOOTBALL...

Shari, Your right, Doug does seem to get in Poultry Press quite often. I went out to his place this spring and seen, not only his Buffs, but his White Rocks too are incredible. We need more people like Doug, who try to get great birds in our 4-Hers hands. I have a very short list of BYCers...

iluvmychicks ~~~ WoWoW!! GORGEOUS!!! Makes me want o go out and get some Cochins. Krys, you know me. You know anything Orp I can't keep my nose out of and my mouth shut. Sometimes it is really hard. I can't resist. I feel like I have to stick up for our guys here in the states. I love...

Krys what you said is true. There is a noticeable difference between the two standards. And in my opinion, there are already two totally different types of ORPS in the world to choose from. IF I wanted to show birds in the UK, I would not tell this young person to buy from a USA ORP breeder...

For UK loving folks, IF you ALL want to belly up and help Sunshine buy and import birds ( at $1,000 a bird ) from the UK, and pay for her trips to show her UK ORPS back in Europe, I am ALL for you telling her to go out and get some birds from the UK. IF you guys don't want to send her back to...

Actually LEE, I think the reference to little people was to their size. Clarence Cannon is in his 80's, prolly not a big dude. Obviously in a REAL SHOW here in the states, Clarence's 14 Dinosaur Buff Orpington Roo, and prolly the 5 runner ups at the Chehalis Show this past Spring of 2009...

I am sorry, I didn't know you were from the UK. Well, then all my leads are worthless. Cause US orpington standards are FAR different then the UK's.

Buck Creek Chickens hit the nail on the head. Go to breed clubs, and look at the pics. OR check out Poultry Press, they show pics of the WINNING birds from the BIGGER shows. Then you know it is not someone here who was told their bird is show quality, even though that bird has never won...