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  1. Poultry Friend

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    Quote: Nothing. Unless the flock you get yours from have been bred with recessive white Javas, and you randomly manage to get a bird that is hiding that gene, there is no way, short of a random mutation or deletion in the DNA (which you cannot control) to get a white bird. If you want white...
  2. Poultry Friend

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    I am not grading. I am only using pure Javas and improving on their type from there. I am planning to hatch 100-200 eggs and keep one or two. I plan to cull for deformities and for chicks not having yellow feet. Since they are so slow to mature, I plan to keep all pullets for a year and...
  3. Poultry Friend

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    I currently have 4 roos in with 14 hens and there has not been a single scuffle or fight. And they have not always been together either. We had one roo with 3 hens and added the other Javas to that pen. I would cull for that behavior. I have not heard others talking about Java roos fighting like...
  4. Poultry Friend

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    I have 5 roosters right now and 4 of them are all together. The lady I got the other one from had him in with 3 others. None of my Javas have a mean bone in them or have fought with eachother. Where did you get your birds from?
  5. Poultry Friend

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    Wow. Maybe you should try to be a little more condescending and rude. I never said I knew everything, but I think it is ridiculous that you have decided that you know the entire truth and everyone who thinks differently then you is a complete moron. Never mind. An exchange of ideas is one...
  6. Poultry Friend

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    True. I am not saying we are able (or should) dictate to another country what they can breed or how it should look, but no matter where you go in the world to buy a Dalmation puppy, it will have spots. Likewise, a Bulldog will have a similar body build, even if some places they have them taller...
  7. Poultry Friend

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    Saladin, I am not sure if you are on the Yahoo Java group of not, but this was posted there: Quote: I am also not sure how much you know about genetics, but assuming that the Black Javas are E/E (which would be likely) and that arrangement would never show any other patterns other then...
  8. Poultry Friend

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    I guess, to me, there are such minimal differences between chickens to begin with, that once it changes too much, it really needs a new name, or at least some variation of the name to identify it (like how you use Belgium Java or Irish Java) I mean, what happens when you take a breed (like...
  9. Poultry Friend

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    http://www.javabreedersofamerica.com/2011/08/culling-of-black-java-chickens.html is good as well.
  10. Poultry Friend

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    But that is only a color change. The body type is still all Java. And even if in Europe they breed them to be something else, that is no longer a Java. Even if we have Old World breeds in North America, if we then bred them to look different and have a different body type it would no longer be...
  11. Poultry Friend

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    But that is like having a Great Dane that looks like a Basset. All dogs are dogs, but if it has short legs, long ears and a long body it is not a Great Dane (even if somehow the only dogs used were Great Danes) In dogs and chickens, what it looks like it pretty much what it is. So a Java...
  12. Poultry Friend

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    I would say those are not Javas. The colors do not look right at all (and I have seen and been working with some of the new mutations) not only that, but the body type does not look right. I am not sure what those are. It is possible they might have some Java blood in them, but I feel pretty...
  13. Poultry Friend

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    The silver's are large fowl. They are pure Javas out of a closed black flock.
  14. Poultry Friend

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    Hmm..I have not seen any bantam Javas, although I do know that one person was working on black as was already stated. Could you take a picture of her side? Honestly, she does not remind me of a Java. But the picture is at an odd angle. Also, the whites I have look like a different color then...
  15. Poultry Friend

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    I would think that could vary on the line you have. Some have birds that are better for meat. They are a dual purpose breed, but I know the ALBC has mentioned they need work on egg production. I think the people who are breed hens that laid well would have better egg production. You can ask the...
  16. Poultry Friend

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    No, I am not upset with you, I was just confused. So where exactly do you live? Missouri? I would bet you are a lot closer to some breeders then you think you are. It sounds like you have already found a good place to get eggs, so that is great!
  17. Poultry Friend

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    BlackPanther, you said you live in the South, but where? I live in MO, I will not be driving near you. I would charge you way more then $95 to drive birds to you. The gas alone is worth more then that, let alone my time. If you are in any state other then MO or IL it would take me at least all...
  18. Poultry Friend

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    Well gas is really high and unless you are in MO or AK....that would cost serious bucks. Just contact Behl farms and see if he will ship adult birds.
  19. Poultry Friend

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    I don't actually have any yet. What I was saying is I am sure that with all the Java people in the Southern area that you could get some from one of us. The soonest I might be selling eggs is this time next year, since I am just now getting my flock next week.
  20. Poultry Friend

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    Saint Louis area, but Chicken Coach lives south of me. I am sure some how you could get some!
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