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  1. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    Beards are easy to remove, all you have to do is make sure to breed clean faced birds. The recessive traits are hard. The yellow skin, the blue egg gene, extra toes (in your example).... This lets you know that recessive traits can pop out years later, sometimes blue egg laying ameraucanas...
  2. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    To my knowledge ameraucanas were never bred to orpingtons to create the lavender color. If it was done recently then that was a big mistake on someone's part. The size is not there, there are just so many negatives to doing that cross. What I do know is that some lavender varieties of birds...
  3. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    looks like a dark splash bird, definitely not lavender
  4. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    Lavender dilutes red, so your bird is more likely a blue and not lavender.
  5. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    You're not going to find english type (or much type at all) in the lavenders unless you buy imported lines.
  6. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    Here is a chocolate chick of mine, the chocolate gene dilutes the black. Just imagine this chick with black down instead of chocolate. That is what extended black would look like.
  7. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    The chick down color on a lavender should look exactly like an extended black chick at hatching. The lavender gene dilutes black and red, so the black portion of the chick would be lavender and the white or cream color areas will stay the same. Down color is very important to look at when...
  8. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    Quote: Do you have the parent stock yourself? If so, go look at their leg color. I believe you have a mottled in there. Your yellow chicks are mottled. Yes, I have the parent stock. All of their leg color is the same---dark green/olive. Can I get chicks that are mottled when none of the...
  9. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    Quote: Seems pretty high to me since the birds are still what I would call in the project stage. Are they imported lines?
  10. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    Quote: This is why some of the breed clubs want to label our birds as lavender instead of self blue as it is very confusing to new breeders. Lavender is not blue and the genes do not express the same way a blue does.
  11. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    Better cull them before they take over your brain. Thank goodness I only have the ones from the Milky Way.... hey wait that means mine are aliens too!!!
  12. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    hey, that resembles me at this moment got a OR Pop Up Bowl, mmmmmmm
  13. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    SBRUSH88 wrote: Walt has correctly provided the basic structure for reproduction/use of the materials from the American Standard of Perfection. Specific to the Black Copper Marans description posted at the beginning of this thread, at the time they were still somewhat "in the pipeline" and that...
  14. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    Quote: The Master has spoken! Black birds can carry the pattern gene also, it's just not expressed because the whole feather is black. Most birds of US heritage do not carry the pattern gene anyway.
  15. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    Neither would be lavender if they have red leakage. They could possibly be splits, but the lavender gene dilutes red too. I have seen dilution in my flock with only one copy. For further clarification, they could have red leakage, but it would appear as a creamy gold color if they were lavender.
  16. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    Quote: I was told a few things about this as I had an ameraucana roo 2 years ago with it. Eventually, the thing that made the best sense genetically(per the genetic gurus here) to me anyway was this.....the "straw" color is what red leakage would look like on a blue. It is not ideal and...
  17. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    Quote: Generally their color will fade in the sun, just like buffs will get lighter and blues and blacks tend to turn a brownish red color when their feathers are old and sun burnt. To be sure, just keep him until he molts and see what he looks like afterwards.
  18. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    Quote: I totally disagree with this statement. Yes, Jody and Charlie made their own line of lavender orpingtons. But they did not create them. There are other breeders who have been working on them for about the same amount of time as they have. I would say they were the first to market...
  19. pips&peeps

    Lavender Orpington project ....

    Quote: TK, we are not having a qualifying meet yet. The United Orpington Club has not planned having one either at this point. Both clubs will probably have the qualifying meet at the same time so we can gear it towards getting the lavender term accepted with the APA. I don't know why the...
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