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    That's because where you drew the line is the TAIL, and that is to be horizontal. If you look at the back only before it hits the tail, that is definitely sloping. Plus the artist just does a rendering. Interpret the drawing how you want, the words are how the bird is judged.
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    lol the pictures are references that artists try to draw. the words are what you go by. sorry.
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    Go for it. It says gently sloping for the back. Unless sloping also means a horizontal straight line then I guess sure why not.
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    This statement is incorrect. Check the standard.
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    Thank you! I didn't see the post originally. My apologies.
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    Thank you Ramirezframing. She is a cutie. Her identical twin sister does not share the same liking for chickens as she does. Got to work on that
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    Had my camera on me yesterday when I went to visit the chickens. Tried to take pictures of the oldest spring hatch, but they were flying around and had different ides about their pictures getting taken. The late feb hatch has started laying and we found some nests in the woods. oh goodie...
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    Congrats!!
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    Quote Off topic.... So how does one come to the conclusion that that is the best ayam cemani in the usa? Is there some national show just for them that we don't know of? Is it a people's choice kind of deal? Do the breeders talk it over? I might sound strange but that breed does not impress...
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    It is a DQ. If the bottom of the feet are pink, it just means they have white skin, which is why it would be a DQ. However, it is not to be confused with a bleached out laying hen.
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    Per standard they must be yellow. Sumatras are a yellow skinned breed.
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    Oh my so many great subjects I cant help but be hooked on here right now. Lauravonsmurf, its a more complex subject than what I said. Obviously nutrition fuels the body and develops the feathers in a way that reflects the light. Pigments do come from the diets. Think of the wild birds and all...
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    Oh no sorry to hear its dry out, in fact its dry up here too. Us Washingtonians are not use to it lol. I guess alfalfa would be your best bet down there right now.
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    Yes alfalfa works great! There is a boat load of things that will brighten the yellow pigment, some of those are corn, carrots, and what works best for me and is free, is to use fresh grasses with lots of weeds such as clover in it ( very much like alfalfa but fresh).
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    Ah Champ I do appreciate you trying to help, but I would need to see real hard evidence to support that. Being that I have a biology degree and a couple of classes in animal nutrition, I honestly find it hard to believe. There is a difference between genetics and nutrition. Nutrition does...
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    Thanks! I wish I could just give you some of my ladies. I can not get them to stop going broody for the life of me. A lot of them are on their 3rd batch this year, and I don't want to hatch right now. (no coops for birds because we are building our house on raw land, and they are all in...
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    Yes I do believe different lines will show slight variations from chicks to adults. It is the reason I started looking closer into this. Although my findings are actually favoring the white downed chicks. I have yet to conclude anything on my line Thank you for sharing! If the cock bird you...
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    Oh that would be perfect! Thank you.
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    Well I guess I should have included what I am looking at in the study. I am seeing whether the amount of white down present produces a more intense beetle green plumage vs a flat black or even a purple hue, than that of one hatched with little white present. So far the results are different and...
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    Just wanted to point out that it is characteristic of the Sumatra to have white down on the chicks, and a good thing to have on the wings. In fact, I am conducting the study/observation on the coloration of white down on black Sumatra chicks as opposed to their adult plumage :)
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