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Quote: I have been told by a friend in KY that he can tell the difference in a Brown Dun and a Brown Chocolate. I agree with nicalandia. There is no visual difference. IF you had a well bred Dun and a well Bred Chocolate, an APA judge would treat them the same. Sorta like Self Blue vs...

Quote: That is the same color. Not a Choc color, but it is brown. My Mottled pullet has one feather like these. And it is not from the sun seeing I had her inside most of her life. The hen is this color. It is not a true black color. Now she is coming in as a mottled. Makes me think...

Quote: I had written a genetic expert and he thinks there is a Brown tint. He is skeptical it is the same gene that is reffered to as the DUN or Choc, however I am too pursue this further. And that will happen cause this feather coloration is present in my Motttled Orpington. And by making...

Quote: I don't need to make money off an incomplete project. I have never sold one of my Blacks either. I do give away for next to nothing some of my Buffs. However, these are lines I crossed, and no pure lines to any given breeder's stock I own. IF I make I can sell it. I hadn't...

Quote: Definitely NOT chocolate. Thats a red orpington. The only way to get chocolate is if the father carried the CHOC gene or if the mother was chocolate. Read some of the earlier posts. Is the gene sex-linked? Definitely a Mottled. Prolly not a Chocolate in the purist sense, but does...

Quote: I don't sell anything. (NOTHING LEAVES ALIVE!) time is not a factor. Why is that? I don't need to make money off an incomplete project. I have never sold one of my Blacks either. I do give away for next to nothing some of my Buffs. However, these are lines I crossed, and no pure...

Quote: I did a Buff to a Black. The initial offspring are not solid. But the bird I have produces and acts genetically like a Black. I have showed a pullet or two from him and they looked and were judged as Black Orpingtons. My interest is now seeing IF the Mottled gene and the Brown...

I don't see what the fuss is about. I see my Blacks Orps from one of my Indiana Orp breeder's lines change in and out of colors. Go from dark Brown to Black and one going from Black to Dark Brown. This hen had been this Brown color all year long. Now she turned into a jet Black Mottled. Not...