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I have both types of perches... I have 2-2x4s, 1-2in dowel, 1-3inch ladder style perch(poop falls right thru, is great) and 1-2x6 that my fat rooster prefers, and then an 8 in window seat thats 1.5 ft up that the silkies prefer and a 6inch wide self that my big girls prefer. I started out with...