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  1. JenellYB

    About "hatchery" quality.....

    Again, it really comes down to what you want, the purpose for you, that meets your needs. But, re this matter of what the breeder is breeding for, show vs any other, I guess I still do have some idealism in that in any case, if you are going to call animals such and such 'breed', there should...
  2. JenellYB

    About "hatchery" quality.....

    A lot has to do with what you want to do with something, in both the kid of educational courses mentioned here, or any of this about where to get animals. In the educational courses, you seemed to have had a very different focus, what you wanted out of them, than in my own. All those courses I...
  3. JenellYB

    About "hatchery" quality.....

    Mammat, yes, definitely, the risk of disease is FAR higher with smaller, individuals, whether breeders, backyard, or farm flocks. The big hatcheris have so much more control over their facilities, eaqse of sanitation and disinfecting, and very important CLOSED breeding populations! I learned...
  4. JenellYB

    About "hatchery" quality.....

    Yeah, all the sciences are notorious for that....changes have and do come so fast....don't know how recent your courses in those were, mine were (oops, correction! (2003-2007). I got my chance at college as my retirement gift to myself! Sure wish I could have done it earlier, was too busy (and...
  5. JenellYB

    About "hatchery" quality.....

    Nope, its the same in animals. Hybrids in neither plants nor animals breed true in the 2nd generation. None of us know everything..For me, perhaps an ufair advantage...in addition to more years experience with animals and breeding than I wish i were old in total, there's a B.S. that included...
  6. JenellYB

    About "hatchery" quality.....

    "Hybrid vigor" technically only applies to members of different species... it is commonly used by lay persons to refer to reshuffling the genes by non-liner breeding. I was just going through my seed packets, planning my veggie garden. All my chosen varieties of tomatoes, corn, watermelons...
  7. JenellYB

    About "hatchery" quality.....

    Not my intent to slam good breeders. I was, considered myself, others considered me, a very good breeder of purebred dogs for over 40 yrs, rabbits, nearly 20. Breeders are just people. some take it more seriously than others. some do a great job, others don't. all you can do is check each one...
  8. JenellYB

    About "hatchery" quality.....

    I wasn't saying you per se might want to show or now, just that I don't think its right to be slamming the quality of hatchery chicks as if poor quality is just a given, to be expected.
  9. JenellYB

    About "hatchery" quality.....

    I don't think we have to to still want to get the kind of chicken we intended to get. I haven't shown dogs in years, won't again, but for example, when I got my present Labrador Retriever, i wanted him to BE a real Labrador retriever and reasonably typical of what the breed is supposed to be, in...
  10. JenellYB

    About "hatchery" quality.....

    FireTigeris, I do not know what you mean by NPIP places. Not familiar with that term. As for your differing results with purebreds and mixes, there's likely one or more of several things that might be involved, mostly genetics, if you are consistently seeing that kind of difference. 1...
  11. JenellYB

    About "hatchery" quality.....

    And btw, back those years ago, my own kids, and many other kids in 4-H and FFA raised hatchery chicks from one of the 2 most mentioned large hatcheries, and showed them and did VERY WELL with them!
  12. JenellYB

    About "hatchery" quality.....

    A recent newcomer to this forum, but with many past years experience with chickens, and just some common sense, something I keep seeing all over these forums is the assumed poor quality of "hatchery" chicks in general. That hatcheries in general don't bother with quality, or even true purity of...
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