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  1. Shaffer

    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    Yes, there are two clubs with breeders listenings on them. Ameraucana Breeders Club and Ameraucana Alliance Club. You may find someone on there that has what you are looking for.
  2. Shaffer

    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    Here is a pictures of 2016 Breeders unfortunately the male had lost some feathers when the picture was taken. He filled in very nice and has a wide chest now.
  3. Shaffer

    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    The UK had lavenders araucanas since I believe about 1930's from a shipwreck on a remote island of the UK well before anything in the USA were called self blues.
  4. Shaffer

    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    Sorry, Jean and Walt my birds did not come out of self blues but were decedents of birds called Lavender Araucanas.
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    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    Some probably are and some are interested in making quality. I have had the problem to distinquish which ones are serious breeders in the past with this color and other breeds I have had that is why I am reluctant to sell birds.
  6. Shaffer

    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    OK, I am not in it for the money. I have sold very few birds since about 2008 because of the gypsy's that started to promote them for a fast dollar and some of them would love the APA would accept them. So if one wants to call them "Self Blue" that is fine but this thread is "Lavender" and not...
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    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    John from NJ, it is really up to the APA judges which shade of lavender they consider the standard everyone has a different opinion as to the description that is written. The judges will set the tone as to what is the standard shade of lavender. No two birds are exactly alike the same as with...
  8. Shaffer

    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    The APA says they are self blue but genetically they are lavenders. Every country calls them lavender except the US APA calls them self blue.
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    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    John, I know. In the early 1900's when they bred black to white orpington they got blues without any lacing and that is when or possibly when the phrase "Self Blue" was created for these blues that were not Andalusian marked. I have had orpington that hatched blue without lacing already which...
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    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    I looked at the picture of what is proposed as medium shade of lavender. The 1998 books shows an OEG bantam self blue to be much darker in color, the self blue OEG bantams that as shown are much lighter than the proposed self blue color of the ameraucana. I have seen at least 5 different...
  11. Shaffer

    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    Yes but one of your lavenders maybe a blue lavender you will have to check the feather quills to know which one.
  12. Shaffer

    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    Since you used splits which are black then one of the lavenders is also carrying a blue gene. You will not be able to tell if so unless you check the feather quills and that will tell you if it is a lavender carrying a blue gene. This is very possible and not a mutation.
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    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    If you breed two lavenders together you will not get a blue chick. Are you sure this is what you mated or do you have a light blue mated to a lavender?
  14. Shaffer

    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    There is an exotic sale today at Schuylkill Haven, Renninger's Flea Market. There must be at least 500 birds there as told to me by the fellow that bought all my Orpingtons today. There will also be an exotic sale next Week on Saturday at the Green Dragon, Ephrata, Pa but check and call...
  15. Shaffer

    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    Newlinta, those are blues not lavenders.
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    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    I used a black male over two silver hens because I only had a pair of blacks and two silver hens. The silver male was culled because he had gold leakage on his wings. Now the males carried both gold and silver from that in the next generation.
  17. Shaffer

    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    The hens generally will never show any sun bleaching. Check with an OE Game bantam breeder they have been breeding then much longer than any or most breeds and never heard them say they have to keep going back to black. Going back to black is to give better feathering and type to the...
  18. Shaffer

    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    Yes, Jerry is correct most lavenders are missing a specific diluting gene that needs to be added to them. I have the same issue till I figure out what ameraucana color has it. I would not recommend to outcross to a non blue egg laying bird.
  19. Shaffer

    Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

    Any one that wants to join the Ameraucana Breeders Club should apply now. Cut off date for the year is Dec 31st I believe.
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