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  1. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    The legbars are doing fine. All the cocks lost all the tips to their combs last winter so no worries with them this year. They are all naturally dubbed. We haven't had any really cold weather yet. We got snow a week ago and it has been cold since then. It has hover around 30 deg F for...
  2. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    I am not active, but I check in from time to time. :-)
  3. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Welcome Surock. This thread was started when the first Draft of the APA standard was started. The Cream Legbar Working Group grew into the Cream Legbar Club. We are now on about Draft 4-5 of the standard and it is worked on in the Club Standards committee whihc doesn't have the visibility...
  4. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    First Annual Cream Legbar Club On-line Show Second Annual Cream Legbar Club On-line Show Third Annual Cream Legbar Club On-line Show
  5. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    The Cream Legbar show is a great place to look at birds and gain a critical eye of what to look for in the breed. The judging has been very extensive the past three years and so the winners show what a good birds could look like and provide great feed back to flock owners. I encourage everyone...
  6. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Here are some female wings. The parts of the wing are the same as the males (i.e. Primaries, Secondaries, Coverts, Wing Bars, Wing Bow, Front, etc.) but the colors are very different. Below is the wing of a Light Brown Leghorn. The Legbar hen would have barring. Unlike the cockerel the...
  7. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Okay...I re-read the SOP for the color of the male wing bows. It does say dark grey so the composite I put together is what the Standard calls for, but I think this is an area of the standard that they got wrong. I think this area should read cream in the standard with chestnut permissible...
  8. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Okay..Sorry for taking so long to get this started. Here is some food for thought on Cream Legbar Wings. First, here is what the Proposed APA standard says on the wing's type. Shape—Male Wings: Large and carried close to the body without dropping. Shape—Female Wings: Large and carried close...
  9. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    I got back to wings on Sunday and located some of my materials from when I did a presentation at the Cream Legbar Club on type and color. I lost my momentum though with vacation and then getting caught up on things after vacation. I will try to get the Wings up this week.
  10. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    I didn’t get the wings done before I felt town. It will be finished when I get back the middle of next week.
  11. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Working on it. :-)
  12. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Lonnyandrinda leaked that I had put together a section on the Legbar wings at Saturday's Cream Legbar Club meeting. :cool: Okay wings it is. I will pull what I did for the Club Meeting a few years ago and try to get somethings posted tonight.
  13. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Okay...we skipped crestes, combs, wattles, ear lobes, eyes, legs/feet, wings, color, general defects, (and probably a few other things). We hit the main areas which should be the first focus. You really can only improve one area at a time. If you work with big grow out groups you can work on...
  14. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Congrats BenTN. Three more pullets will be a nice addition. There was talk of starting a new thread for a mentor group after we went through the big items on the SOP (Back, Tail, Breast, head). We didn't get into legs, combs, crest (which is supposed to be a big item on crested breeds)...
  15. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    I use photos. I some times will snap 20-30 photos while out collecting eggs in the evening and yes the photo does give you more time to study the bird. You have to get the right angle to see what your are looking for (which is why I take 20-30 then delete all for 2-3). I also like to leg band...
  16. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    I am not really sure where to start on the head. There is a guild to breeding and culling laying flocks by head points that was done by a researcher at the Agricultural Experimentation Station at Kansas State in the 1920's. It is the thing that has helped me understand what to look for in the...
  17. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Yes at 6 months all of my birds could have solid white ear lobes but by 12 months old 80 of them could have more than 50% of there ear lobes showing white through it. Ear lobes are one of those things that I have trying to improve for 2-3 years. I have one line that keeps the white ear lobes...
  18. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Okay...we are almost done with a basis evaluations. I look at the back, then tail, then the breast, then the Head (including the comb, beak, face, etc). Yes their are a lot of other areas that are in the SOP but I have found that using those four is usually enough to pick the best bird out of...
  19. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    Yes...That hen has the ideal breast for the Legbar SOP. Great example. I love the curve on that breast. The breast looks very full. I am sure it meets the requirement for prominent. Note: I also have heard old timers call a prominent breast a "Proud" breast.
  20. GaryDean26

    Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

    ReLova, Yes...you are are looking at the same things as I am on these birds. Yes, the 4th has the split breast which is correct for some breeds but not what the "well rounded" description calls for and wrong for the legbar. No split breast for Legbars. Well rounded breast do not show any type...
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