Hemet, even thinking about Israel and Palestine, and arguing who gets the land, and saying "our forefathers were here first" makes my head hurt....of course I want to hijack the hijack...
As for arguing with people's religious beliefs, you might as well argue with a stop sign....
Also, on the whole UN treaty thing. I haven't heard one logical reason for not ratifying the treaty. What I did hear was a bunch of people muttering about the UN, as if this treaty would somehow put the US under UN jurisdiction on people with disabilities. It should have passed.
Also, in both Northern Ireland and in Israel/Palestine people are fighting for control of territory. The religion just gives an additional layer to the whole complex issue.