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CENTRARCHID.... You talk about kills like your dogs have actually gone and killed a predator or two....? I don't know if I have ever seen that side of my dog. I have seen him chase squirrels, but he seems to not have that killer instinct.

I have an Aussie, have had him for years... he is a great dog and I love him as much as one could, but as a full time flock guardian, he would not be very effective... he does patrol the property and his presence I believe is a deterrent to many predators. He is even cognizant of Hawks...