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You're absolutely right. Thank you for helping talk me through it.

Quote: I imagine there are many, many like us out there. You know, it took me until this year (I am 42) to realize my mother's role in all this. I had always pictured her as being a victim, right along with us kids. My eyes were opened this year and I now know she was an enabler and a...

We should get coffee sometime.

Quote: Did you just walk away one day? How did you survive? Other family or friends? I moved in with a friend who had faked an ID so that she could get an apartment. Of all reasons to get a fake ID, right? Her mother was an obsessive collector and the entire house was filled floor to...

Quote: I would be surprised if any of the oldest five girls (now adults) had ever had a boyfriend.

Quote: The thing that concerns me here is that the "kids" do not do their own thing. My father used to threaten to disown us if we did anything that he didn't like. Most of the time he was an absent parent so this didn't come into play often but I was disowned twice and finally disowned...

Quote: As a homeschooler, you know where I stand on this, lol. However, I have to say that I have met around 150 different homeschooling families from my area (within 15 miles) and perhaps 2 of those families fit the profile of "homeschooling to protect" in the way you mean. I do homeschool...

Quote: Thank you. I suspected most of what you are saying but wasn't sure. There was always some excuse for why we couldn't come visit or why they couldn't and then recently it was implied that we were unacceptable as influences and stated that they would think about whether or not they...

Quote: You have restored my faith in the next generation. Thank you. I have no idea of what happened here other than that there are no expectations whatsoever for these guys. Their grasp on the real world is kind of unbelievable too.

The "kids" aren't even allowed to visit their family members unless they travel together which is, of course, complicated and expensive. They function in groups. And none of them have gone to college. The oldest wouldn't even answer the phone until she was sixteen. They are, however, well...

Years ago, my brother got a tuition reimbursement for moving to a rural area to practice medicine. He already had four children at the time and now has twelve. All twelve children are home schooled and are still living at home in spite of the fact that five are now over the age of eighteen. A...