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  1. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    Too late to start a post to you but comb type is instantly obvious as day olds in the Chanteclers. Our Red Chant Medusa - BYC's 2014 Cushion Comb Winner Not jest another purdy stern gazing face, eh I published an article in the Feather Fancier - Canada’s National Monthly Bird...
  2. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    Know your breed and variety by knowing its history; the birds never lie about their origins. Your answer to this question may be found in the APA Standard of Perfection...as per this section of BYC, you are expected to have read the Standard for your breed and variety so that you would know...
  3. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    So remind me again...your objective was? Something with lavender and red I think...and big with a single comb or? What coloured eggs...olive I think? Too many changes in how to get there and I forgot where you were going.
  4. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    Really? People believe that...now that is funny! I've seen more issues with trying to keep a Cushion Comb pure...Bro W the creator of the Chantecler breed was plagued for decades with rose or peas springing forth...gets sorta depressing if singles start up but I always figure them chooks...
  5. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    I'll be crossing fingees and toes on your success... So you know, I had lots say that some of our own projects & conservations were an impossibility too (real blooded bantam Chanteclers in White/Partridge/Buff, black skinned rec White Booteds for our MDF's, fully toed Brahmas, Buff Pied...
  6. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    Sigrid goes on to say that if you add pattern genes (Pg, Ml,Db, Ml) to an ER, you get lovely results, add that to E and nothing happens. Keep in mind for an exhibition BLACK bird, E has to have helpers...it ends up looking somewhat like ER without help. A black chicken with yeller legs is...
  7. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    Sigrid says adult ER has breast lacing. E chick is black on top whereas ER chicks may have a brown head &/or white spot on chin. Some ER have purplish down. I don't have either e-series base in my possession, so cannot assist you with any personal observations. Doggone & Chicken UP...
  8. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    I teach seven year old kids how to do the Punnett Square matrixes to understand the inheritance of blue dilution... This is where I start up doing demos with plastic chooks and PS...lots of genetics before that but mixed in with general farm life on the ranch...
  9. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    I thought Kaz Jap posted an article er three on some new dom white genetics (rec white too, she posts so much awesome stuff to digest eh)...course I would not be able to find it for the life of me. I'm OK with dom white but until we got the Standard sized Chants, did not have it here. So kinda...
  10. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    In pursuit of the NO Male Wheaten variety, more firewood to the burning question... Recent additions past your own copies of the 2010 APA SOP's...there are now....<<drumroll please!>>...Blue Wheaten OEGB (male description basically says to replace the black areas with slatey blue), the Ko...
  11. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    Heel low: Came across some rather interesting tidbits looking at the images in the 2010 APA SOP... page 206... ASEEL -- WHEATEN MALE spot,,, Blank slot with caption that reads: Male illustration not sponsored page 208... MALAY -- WHEATEN MALE spot,,, Blank slot with...
  12. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    There are two colours in bird feathers...black and red...no pigment is white. Bubbles on the surface of the feather make some of the shiny "textures," think in terms of hummingbird feathers. You want a chicken with one colour...the easiest to make and maintain (once you got all the right...
  13. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    There is a ton of variance in the individuals...and some are too white over the top almost instantly. Some take time to have the mo/mo expressed ... those ones are more likely to be showable as young adults. Kinda like the Speckled Sussex, they are said to be "too gay" and go over the top...
  14. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    Heel low: Sure is alot of mysterious problems when dealing with basically, pretty much the original chicken colour of the Red Junglefowl..."wild type" or even wild type once removed sometimes on an e-series Wheaten base...maybe mutation of Di added for diluted properties... I believe Sigi...
  15. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    I would have to agree...what are you to call something once the "traditional" label has been hijacked to explain something that it should not. If you want to gain a headache...look at the hobby terms Porcelain, Isabel, and Mille Fleur...totally opposite meanings, from place to place. I...
  16. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    OK, still recovering, eh but had another look at your examples...those look Jazzy/Tollbunt (black laced mottled, mottled gold laced - compared to MDF, it has NO Db or Mh and based on ER) to me, not so much MDF. Tollbunt is just a messy formation of the MDF pattern basically. Would these...
  17. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    Eeeeeeeeeeeekk...Icrumba...that ain't NO Jubilee... But then again, maybe that is in the British SOP's...I have no copy of those here. To me...this is Jubilee... All gorgeous Indian Games (I believe we refer to these as "Cornish" here inNA ). Well, OK to me anyway! So...
  18. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    You are most welcome. What you will find is it is all in the finer details. Best investment is to get a copy of the relevant Standard of Perfection (SOP) and study what the colour varieties are suppose to look like. The American Bantam Association (ABA) lists "Mille Fleur," "Speckled,"...
  19. CanuckBock

    Color genetics thread.

    Jubilee is based on dominant white (take a Dark Cornish and by adding one I or sometimes, in theory at least, by adding two blue dilutions as in Splash) and genetically called Double Laced Dominant White. There should be no real black present since dom white (no colour in double dose) and...
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