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My aunt just got a mixed bunch of birds from someone and posted pics on Facebook. Looks like there's a Chocolate Laced in there! Aren't those pretty dang rare still? What are the odds of her getting one from a backyard mixed flock? Could it be another genetic possibility I'm not aware of? Or...

Isabel laced olive Eggers. :) Except, gold/red dilutes to cream with isabel. So it will be cream with lavender lace. Ideally, I'd move more towards Ameraucana standard with each generation.

Well, if that's how you both feel, maybe I'll do my initial cross with sebrights, then cross those to the gold laced Orpingtons (that'll be hatching next month). Since the Orps have single combs, that will make the genetics of rose vs pea simpler by cutting out the walnut possibility (correct?)...

I HAVE considered the sebrights many times actually. Especially since they are a dime a dozen compared to the costly Gold Laced Orpingtons. However... I just couldn't get over the fact that I'd be working hard to breed up to standard size, AND I'd have to deal with crazy rose comb genetics then...

Just to clarify... I'm not using BCMs in the project, just to try to discern if my lavender carries ER. Although, I do agree that there's a probability of them not being the best bet for a test mating. The pic you linked to was EXACTLY why I posted my question in the first place. In black...

This is exactly why I *need* to find an ER based lavender. I can't imagine having a 1 out of 256 chance of getting what I'm looking for! I know the difficulty of this project going into it, but I think the end results will be worth it! (You know, in three or four years....) ;)

Yes, I'm using ER for the tail lacing. Also, to avoid hundreds of additional genotypes cause by an ER or E/ER cross with eb. If I can pinpoint a lavender based on ER that will save me literally hundreds of culls. ER based lavenders are common, and able to be distinguished by down color as...

Question... I read somewhere that Black Copper Marans were ER based. I've got a hen paired with a lavender Ameraucana for a test mating (and of course, olive Eggers). I want to see if the lavender carries ER in order to see if it will help along my isabel lacing project... Anyway, here's the...

I don't work with Blues, but I do know that they are pretty different genes from normal laced birds. I've read that the best way to get good blues is to cross a good blue with a good blue, and avoid outcrossing. But, like I said, I don't have any experience with it. Maybe someone else could...

It depends on the breed and the color, and if it is ER or eb based... Some need Co, Ml and Pg, some also need the addition of Db. Best just to check out the chicken calculator and research what your own breed is based on. :)

That is correct, isabel wheaten=lavender wheaten. And yes, isabel is just barely gaining popularity, and it sounds like most people are not even familiar with the term.

The Lavender Wheatens will be pure Ameraucanas (just not an approved color). The Lavender laced will be EEs. Although, I did a little more research and decided to go with an Orpington gold laced, since I won't have to deal with yellow leg genes then, and could (in theory) work the birds towards...

I AM interested in lacing. The plan is a cream bird with lavender lace. I'll also be simultaneously working on a Lavender Wheaten project (which won't have lacing). And with a "novelty" bird like this, I don't really think production and growth are big deciding factors here. ;)

Oooohh, good call on the silver. I'll have two lines of lavs to work with, pics from the breeding stock of one (eggs in bator now) seemed to show gold leakage, but I'll have to ask the breeder I'm getting my adult stock (4 hens, 3 cocks) from what hers have... I was thinking I'd get away with...

The advantage of gold laced over silver is that from my research, if you use silvers, you're likely to get lavender laced silvers (white with lavender lacing). Whereas the gold laced will produce a true isabel color (creamish). I'm going for the isabel color, although I could see another breeder...

I'm thinking I'll use Lav Ameraucanas and Gold Laced Wyandottes. The calculator shows that the Gold Laced genes are much less complex than the Blue Laced Reds or the Silver Laced. This will produce Olive Eggers/Easter Eggers, which are really popular right now. I'm not looking to make a new...

Also, the half blue half black would just be for F1s. Once you breed those together, you end up with a myriad of gene differences because of all the possible combos of Co, Db, Pg, Ml, and Lav... ETA: As well as the combos of E, ER, and eb (depending on what your parent stock was based on)...

After messing around on the calculator for three days, I finally found a way to do it in 2-3 years. After that, I'm sure there will be several years of refinement. But at least I'll have the basic genetic structure in 3 generations. Have you done this yourself?

I love the look of isabel colored chickens. So, I thought I'd go through the chicken calculator to figure out how to make an isabel laced chicken. First step: cross lavender with blue laced red. Results: two phenotypes- blue unicolor and black unicolor. Next step: cross the two blue unicolors...