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Beautiful! Just went back and re-read parts of this thread. It's a good one!!!

Quote: Wow, I missed this the first time around. Hear hear! (Extra points for great imagery!)

Quote: Hi KenK, by that do you mean gamefowl with no game? I think comparisons could be drawn from some of the chicken as pet discussion up thread. By not very game I mean birds that may look the part but that have not been diligently bred towards the purpose for which they were originally...

Quote: I personally like leg bands because observing the birds moving and their daily habits and personalities is important to my selection. I like to take mental notes on which ones dominate the pen, which ones are bullies or protective, which ones have that "extra sparkle" in their bearing...

Quote: I just want to reiterate this point. The fear of "inbreeding" is still running rampant, and I feel it's to the detriment of the breeds. Correct "inbreeding" and line breeding is the true breeder's most valuable tool to set type and various other traits, including health and vigor.

Quote: Try living in Alaska! I think I'm finally ready to gamble and try some eggs up here. I'll let you all know how it works out!

Quote: Dominique LF really do fit my criteria, but it looks to me (and I may be wrong, I have yet to find anyone with them,) that the Dominique Bantam is probably on the smaller end of the banty spectrum compared to some of the others. There are several good LF on the "Alaska Approved...

We're talking circles. We agree, we just have different ways of saying the same thing, apparently. And if we don't agree, I will concede to agree to disagree. But I really don't think we're that far off. We have the same goals, I'm sure of it, it's just that I intend to arrive there via a...

Hmm, lots to think about and distract me from work. Thanks a lot, guys! Actually, you will only know their worth *to you*, but not their true worth as a representative of a pure breed of poultry. That takes showing and putting them out there for a critical assessment from an impartial judge...

Quote: You have a point Ken, but bantams are not a typical breed for the homestead flock and, I have little experience with bantam eggs, but I know if it were just me and my wife, we could not depend on our bantams to provide eggs for even our consumption. Maybe if they weren't fond of eggs...

Quote: Oh Bob, you are so full of knowledge and information but surely you can't mean that statement the way it sounds! You out of everyone here have come closest to creating your own strain of exactly what so many of us on this thread want, and I don't understand why there is conflict, but I...

how are you going to do this on 1/8 an acre? You think just because your signature SAYS you never intend to start an argument that makes it so? And for the record, I recently moved here, temporarily as far as I am concerned, and had to give up my flock of Delawares and Orloffs. However...

Quote: And here I was thinking it was a Farming and Homesteading Heritage Poultry thread, not just a Heritage Poultry Thread.

Quote: To a degree, I'm on board with that statement, and that's why I spend a lot of time mapping out various plans for "project breeds". But at the same time, if heritage breeds can't compete with the latest and greatest super chickens, we will lose them. It's simply a matter of economics...

Jared is right. This all simply comes down to prioritizing what's important. All culling processes do. A homesteader should be culling first on performance as a useful bird, and THEN on aesthetic and more superflous points of the standard. Thankfully, there are those that will choose to breed...

Quote: Well, maybe the problem is the standard itself. Why should a breed not be offered the opportunity to evolve and change as we, hopefully, get better at breeding? I do understand holding onto traits that are hallmarks of the breed. But if holding onto those traits prevents developing the...

Here's my biggest gripe with "breeding to standard" and the could interfere with both breeding to standard and having the ultimate heritage homestead bird: Plumage Color/Pattern. Breeding to size/body shape and even being sure things like skin color and comb type are on target are all things...

My, there's a lot of rudeness here! My interest in this thread has tapered off because I fail to see the difference in this vs. what is already being discussed on the other Heritage Poultry thread. The focus has again returned to breeding to standard, which is fine and good and all...but...

Quote: Maybe they're look-outs? I had an open pen/coop with one portion that was covered, but still open. We lived at the edge of the woods and predators should have been common, but I never had ANYTHING hit my flock. I attribute this in part to having too many roosters! One was always...

Quote: Yet another reason to keep just one breed!