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Quote: I've gotten so claimed "purebred Brahmas" from McMurray that were mutts. . . Their Turkens are often mutts. . .Also, their "Araucana/Americanas" are mutts.

The black and white one is a Silver Laced Wyandotte cockerel. The red and black one looks, honestly, like some sort of Oriental Gamefowl mutt. I'd need better pics though because I think I see a single comb.