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There are very few hobbies that can pay their own way, but chickens are one, if they pay for their own feed, and new pens etc and still provide home meat and eggs its a winner to me, plus it fits into my overal rural lifestyle. It cuts down on storebought food, so raises the health level, and...

I'm with you on the 2' measurements, it can make a big difference. I am redoing some of my plans to the 2 by 3 instead of 2 by 4, and 3/8s OCD instead of 1/2" . On brooders, 2 tiered pair pens, and some 10' long ones instead of just standard 8' lengths. Some pens I want for keepin stud...

I am in a similar situation, with several LF breeds plus turkeys, but what has to be has to be. I am going with 6' horse wire fence, $110/100' roll. I am looking at $400 worth at the pens I need.

Re: Free ranging and dogs, I follow the SSS rule, it works for me, after two bird dogs went through over half my chickens and most of my geese. I've never looked back. I dont expect to make a profit on my birds, they are a hobby and major interest, but, they do need to be paying their way, have...

Right on Stone! We need to track our costs, and to work on improving the production of our birds, if its a hobby thats fine if you want to write off the costs that way, I supply eggs to the extended family and several friends so breaking even on eggs probably wont happen, BUT, I am planning on...