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Quote: Great diagram! thanks! Cawalk that was a terrriffic pic, appreciate it! Everybody else thanks for the help too! So if it is a cockeral some of the first identifiers will be the neck feathers (hackles), and top of back end either side of tail feathers(saddle), growing longer and pointier...

Would someone tell me a place to reference exactly where the hackles and saddles feathers are on the bird? thanks, katy