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  1. KenK

    Lives lost per unit of meat eaten

    Quote: As I keep saying, if you people would only appoint me supreme ruler of all the galaxies, near and far, I could fix it. And never forget, it will hurt me more than it hurts you.
  2. KenK

    Lives lost per unit of meat eaten

    Quote: That is inarguable. However; do we want to trade what may or may not be a finite supply of fossil fuel for plastic packaging to be buried in a landfill? To give just one example.
  3. KenK

    Lives lost per unit of meat eaten

    Article in today's paper about manure management on large farms. http://www.ajc.com/news/fecal-risk-to-water-1107695.html?cxtype=ynews_rss
  4. KenK

    Lives lost per unit of meat eaten

    I'm not sure that I understand why the number of lives lost is relevant in this context. Its obvious that more chickens will have to die than steers to produce 1,000 pounds of meat. As for efficiency: I think many Americans eat more meat than is necessary, or that is good for them, as...
  5. KenK

    Lives lost per unit of meat eaten

    No, I probably wouldn't like a grizzly bear living in my backyard. Hence the suggestion to set aside an area for them to live and not be messed with. I'm sure they do prefer garbage cans to hunting down prey. Kind of like a welfare mother driving a Cadillac and buying cakes to feed her ill...
  6. KenK

    Lives lost per unit of meat eaten

    Quote: So, if we have a grizzly bear in a freezer someplace no need to give them a place to live? Just clone another one for the zoo. Humans will shat upon every square inch of this planet if allowed. Would like to see parkland set aside that nobody can go into for any reason. Or not...
  7. KenK

    Lives lost per unit of meat eaten

    Quote: Don't stop, interesting topic. Why does the "universe" give a crap if humans inhabit it or not? I've never been able to figure out why we matter. Humans seem to me to have evolved (or been created) to destroy that which sustains them (us). Folks like me worry about the balance in...
  8. KenK

    Lives lost per unit of meat eaten

    Quote: I've watched guys fileting grouper and snapper and throwing the heads and backbones back into the trash or into the drink for the crabs. Makes me want to cry. The backbone and attached meat off a thirty pound grouper makes a heck of a meal. I've caught 100s of bream (centrarchid) out...
  9. KenK

    Lives lost per unit of meat eaten

    Quote: I suppose that free ranged or pastured poultry utilize feeds that would not be available to be directly consumed by humans but I figure about 99% of what penned birds eat could be consumed directly. Talk about inefficiency of production; think about how many of our resources are used...
  10. KenK

    Lives lost per unit of meat eaten

    Do vegans live trap and humanely relocate insect pests in their gardens? People value "lives" differently it goes like this: insects then other things without eyebrows, then horses, then dogs then people. None of us are getting out of here alive.
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