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  1. KristenG

    Theory: Ml and id+ cause brown eyes in chickens

    @Amer I really liked the eyes on that male you had to cull. I completely understand about clearing out the birds with diseases though. You are right as well on many d’Anvers having beaks that are too long. Long heads, and faces seem to be pervasive in many of the Belgians for some reason. I’m...
  2. KristenG

    Theory: Ml and id+ cause brown eyes in chickens

    Br is dominant red/ light eyes. br is recessive brown eyes. It is possible my phone auto corrected to a capital letter somewhere where it should not have been. Sorry if there was a typo. On another note, Sometimes the notation gets confusing because some characteristics are named after the...
  3. KristenG

    Theory: Ml and id+ cause brown eyes in chickens

    I was not sure on the head streak. The first thing that came to mind was the stripe on the back of the head in chick down like on this BBR d’Anvers: So I looked up head streak in Hutt and in page 214 it did talk about the head streak in the wild type down. Some chicks apparently lack this...
  4. KristenG

    Theory: Ml and id+ cause brown eyes in chickens

    Thanks for sharing. These are very green on the inner ring - how neat! This note inspired me to do some digging. I found an interesting article regarding this topic: Normal Eye Color in the Chicken Summary: The above article describes that there are three pigments involved in creating eyecolor...
  5. KristenG

    Theory: Ml and id+ cause brown eyes in chickens

    @Amer , I think you’re right, there may be some sort of genetic linkage. I do not think that the color genes involved (Melanotic, di^+) are the cause of eyecolor in this case. I’m not even convinced that all d’Anvers are di^+. However, there very may well be a link between certain genes that...
  6. KristenG

    Theory: Ml and id+ cause brown eyes in chickens

    Yes, this is definitely what I would call a reddish bay. You said the eye color on my first adult was light brown. Are you referring to the 4 month old pullet whose eye color I called orange? I said she had her adult color, but it will keep changing slightly, it will fade a little. I disagree...
  7. KristenG

    Theory: Ml and id+ cause brown eyes in chickens

    Oh, forgot to show the effect of age. Here is a blue Quail d’Anvers cock that had nice medium brown eyes like the first quail cockerel above when he was 4-6 months old. He is now 2-1/2 years and this is what those eyes turn into on an older cock: And here is a 1-1/2 year old hen that had...
  8. KristenG

    Theory: Ml and id+ cause brown eyes in chickens

    Ok, I went and got some pictures. First three are all baby pictures. Slate eyes. Variety doesn’t matter. Self blue and black day old d’Anvers babies. Then a BBR d’Anvers week old chick. Eye color stays like this for about the first month. Then by three months it turns yellow to orange for most...
  9. KristenG

    Theory: Ml and id+ cause brown eyes in chickens

    Ok, it looks like I might have something interesting to add here, so I may as well pipe up. Thanks for the tag @Amer You all should know that I did start with hatchery stock in my initial flock of d’Anvers in 1998. None of the Quail D’Anvers I started with had dark brown eyes. So I...
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