I'm no expert either as I only have one runner but they do look very runner-ish to me. The second one looks like a chocolate runner maybe, but i'm not sure I've ever seen a swedish-patterned runner, so it'll be interesting to see how he/she turns out.
That looks a lot like a mystery duckling I saw at my local TSC about a month ago. No one suggested saxony at the time...the best we could come up with was some kind of runner or maybe a golden 300 hybrid, but I think saxony is the most likely.