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  1. jrsckn

    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    Sorry I haven't been on, I've had a summer internship in poultry research and just got home! I'm so happy others are finding my experiment use full and interesting. Thanks! Yes, you are right, I measured everything dry so I knew exactly how many pounds they were eating. If I could do it...
  2. jrsckn

    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    Same here! Just like he said, its good on bbq chicken because it adds to tthe vinegar in the sauce but it is horrible to make sandwiches with! If you use the meat in anything off the bone - fajitas, nuggets, pot pie - you don't notice a difference.
  3. jrsckn

    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    Get a bottle of Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar(ACV) or any other brand with the mother in it, put some feed in a bucket, pour some ACV on top, cover with water, stir, and let sit a few days stirring once or twice a day and adding water to keep it covered as needed. You can make your own ACV but I'm...
  4. jrsckn

    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    It does flavor the meat. In most cases it makes it flavorful and juicy but other times it can clash with condiments or seasonings.
  5. jrsckn

    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    First of all good luck, broilers are fun! As for just using it in the water, some microbes are better than none. I only had issues with contaminants when my ff was in my kitchen so I believe it was my kitchen's fault. My house was a foreclosure and there was mold in the cupboards near the...
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    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    Just wanted to update on the tase of the fermented feed birds. They are very tender and juicy with good flavor but they to have a tangyness to them. If you roast them, they make horrible chicken sandwiches with the leftovers - mayo or miracle whip - just too "sour" but other than that I...
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    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    Well, I have to disagree about the necropsy, it was 110 degrees outside and they were piled on top of eachother, no other cause of death is very likely (especially since I was able to revive a few birds that were overheated and near death). I will admit that it does stand to reason that the...
  8. jrsckn

    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    They were lost due to heat stroke. Wednesdays were my weigh days and it just so happened that I had just weighed them a couple hours before the losses. Since I had the current average weight, I just calculated the cost per bird up until that point and used that cost to carry over to the next...
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    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    That's awesome, I was planning on playing with excel but haven't had the time, thanks!!! I was more than surprised with the results. I never expected the CC to be the cheapest and the grain chicks to be the most expensive. I do think I will feed both fermented and dry crumbles in the future...
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    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    Day 64 8/1/12 Wednesday WEEK 9 RESULTS Crumble Chicks Live Weight Processed Weight/Skinned Dressing Percentage 8.28 5.55 67.029 7.37 4.93 66.893 8.25 5.49 66.545 Average: 7.967 5.323...
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    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    Day 64 8/1/12 Wed Finish 39A (117lb) Mix 42A Start 40A Finish 49B, 50B (110lb) Mix 52,53B CC 3lb (46lb) Day 65 8/2/12 Thurs Finish 40,41A (123lb) Mix 43A Finish 51,52,53B (116lb) Mix 54,55,56B CC 1lb (47lb) Day 66 8/3/12 Fri Finish 42A (126lb) Mix 45A Start 43A Finish 54B (118...
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    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    Day 64 8/1/12 Wednesday WEEK 9 RESULTS Crumble Chicks Average Weight: 22.70 / 3 chicks = 7.567 lb Wk 9 gain: 7.567 lb wk 9 – 6.637 lb wk 8 = 0.930 lb gain wk 9 Lbs Consumed: 43 lb total – 34 lb wk 8 = 9 lb consumed wk 9 Lbs Consumed per Chick: 9 lb / 3 chicks = 3 lbs consumed per chick Lbs...
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    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    Day 57 7/25/12 Wed Finish 31A (93lbs) Mix 34A 1.5lb crumble, .75 scratch, .75 oat Finish 37B (84lb) Mix 40B CC3lb (37lb) Day 58 7/26/12 Thurs Finish 32A (96lb) Mix 35A Finish 38B (86lb) Mix 41B Day 59 7/27/12 Fri Finish 33A (99lb) Mix 36A Finish 39, 40B (90lb) Mix 42,43B CC 3lb...
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    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    Day 57 7/25/12 WEEK 8 (5 days) RESULTS Crumble Chicks Average Weight: 19.91 / 3 chicks = 6.637 lb Wk 8 gain: 6.637 lb wk 8 – 5.843 lb wk 7 = 0.794 lb gain wk 8 Lbs Consumed: 34 lb total – 27 lb wk 7 = 7 lb consumed wk 8 Lbs Consumed per Chick: 7 lb / 3 chicks = 2.333 lbs consumed per chick Lbs...
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    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    Day 52 7/20/12 Friday Finish 25A (75lb) Start 26A Mix 27&28A: 1.5lb crumble, .75 oat, .75 scratch Finish 26,27B (65lb) Start 28B (67lb) CC 3lbs (30lb) Day 53 7/21/12 Sat Finish 26a (78lb) Mix 29A Finish 28,29,30B (71lbs) Mix 31,32,33B Day 54 7/22/12 Sun Finish 27A (81lb) Mix 30A...
  16. jrsckn

    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    Day 52 7/20/12 WEEK 7.28 RESULTS (Friday weigh instead of Wed; a new scale was purchased with a higher weight limit ) Crumble Chicks Average Weight: 7.53lb / 3 chicks = 5.843 lb Wk 7 gain: 5.843 lb wk 7 – 4.406 lb wk 6 = 1.437 lb gain wk 7 Lbs Consumed: 27 lb total – 50 lb wk 6 = 7 lb consumed...
  17. jrsckn

    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    Day 43 7/11/12 Wed CC 4 lb (23lbs) Finish 13A, 14A (42lb) Mix 15,16,17A Finish 13B (39lb) Mix 15, 16B - 2lb ea. Day 44 7/12/12 Thurs Finish 15A (45lb) Mix 18A Finish 14B (42lb) Mix 17B Day 45 7/13/12 Fri Finish 16A (48lb) Mix 19, 20A Finish 15B (44lb) Mix 18B DAY 46 7/14/12 Sat Mix...
  18. jrsckn

    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    WEEK 6 RESULTS Wednesday 7/11/12 Day 43 Crumble Chicks Average Weight: 13.219lb / 3 chicks = 4.406 lb Wk 6 gain: 4.406 lb wk 6 – 3.137 lb wk 5 = 1.269 lb gain wk 6 Lbs Consumed: 20 lb total – 15 lb wk 5 = 5 lb consumed wk 6 Lbs Consumed per Chick: 5 lb / 3 chicks = 1.667 lbs consumed per chick...
  19. jrsckn

    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    Honestly, I can't say, these are my first layers and they've only had ff since thy were 12 weeks old. But, they are as large as a supermarket sized large yolk even though they are only medium sized eggs; so in that respect, yes. I also average 12 eggs/day out of 14 pullets even as the weather...
  20. jrsckn

    Meatie Experiment: FF 'vs' Crumbles

    Sorry for the lack of updates, school started and I've had trouble making time to post all of the results. Ironically, I've spent part of the past 6 weeks doing a broiler feed project at the poultry farm at Michigan State lol. I am working on the results now, hopefully I'll have them all...
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